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From: Antoine Couëtte
Date: 2025 Apr 29, 09:06 -0700
Updated information on the partial derivatives "∂" mentioned in my first contribution
(1) - IZMIR data : Direct computation results vs. differential computation from CAIRO data
(1.1) - IZMIR data direct computation results (N38°23'/E027°16'/UT=02h35m30s) (repeat)
Sun at -9.2° below the Horizon and : S 7.083/99.3 , M 7.934/98.6 , V 10.676/97.4
yielding : SV 332.1° , SM 320.6° , and V-M +11.6°
(1.2) - IZMIR data obtained from CAIRO (N34°/E30°/UT=02h15m). (updated)
Partial derivatives at CAIRO now obtained through mid-point intervals (interval widths are 10° for Lat/Long and 20 min for UT), vs. right hand derivatives as earlier. Check enclosure for further details
∂SV/∂Lat= 9.8°/10° and ∂SM/∂Lat= 15.1°/10° hence: ∂Lat° =∂SV° and ∂Lat°= 0.7*∂SM° (see updated error budget)
∂SV/∂Lon=-2.5°/10° and ∂SM/∂Lon= -6.5°/10° hence: ∂Lon°= -4.0*∂SV° and ∂Lon°= 1.5*∂SM° (see error budget)
∂SV/∂UT=+1.6°/20 min and ∂SM/∂UT=-5.6°/20 min hence: ∂UT/∂SV=+12.5 min/° and ∂UTmin/∂SM°=-3.6 min/°
From CAIRO to IZMIR δLat=+4.3833°, δLon=+2.7333° (Longitudes negative to the East) and δUT= +20,5 min
Then from CAIRO to IZMIR : ΔSV= +5.9° and ΔSM= -0.30° . Hence the following results:
(2) - IZMIR data derived from CAIRO :
SV= 332.1° + 5.9° = 333.1° (vs. direct computation 332.1° ) and:
SM= 321.2 - 0.3° = 320.9° (vs. direct computation 320.6°)
Once again, we verify in this example that the mid-point interval method has brough a quite significant improvement over previous [unpublished] results.
Reason for that : a careful review of the enclosure shows that at CAIRO there are significant differences between left and right derivatives on all 3 variables. First results and discussions were based on the use of the "right derivatives" only (lazy me having then gone for just one extra computation instead of the 2 extra computations now required for the mid-point method currently in use).
Having at hand much more reliable partial derivatives now enables the following updated discussion:
(3) - Updated error and uncertainties budget (related to "error bars") :
As per the last part of (1.2) herebaove, we are to use the SM trends which - as expected - enable significantly smaller uncertainties than the SV ones. As a final discussion:
Given the non-symetrical partial derivatives at CAIRO:
An error of 1° on SM approximately translates into an [almost unchanged] 1° uncertainty in Latitude,
An error of 1° on SM approximately translates into a [significantly improved] 1.5° uncertainty in Longitude,
An error of 1° on SM approximately translates into an uncertainty of 3.6 minutes in UT.
Kermit
antoine.m.couette@club-internet.fr






