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Re: Leg 56
From: Dan Hogan
Date: 1999 Jul 15, 6:24 PM
From: Dan Hogan
Date: 1999 Jul 15, 6:24 PM
Ed, etal: I use Navig94 to verify and set up the problems. I also double check using a programmable calculator with Mercator Sailing for the DR when checking and doing what-if's. When using plotting sheets and manual calculation for DR your answers can vary up to 30 minutes of arc. But practice and care will get it down to less than 4 minutes, but you need to interpolate carefully. The intent of Plotting Sheets is to provide plotting for an area of 2 degrees. Trying to use it for more REALLY increases the error factor. Don't forget DR is time and distance applied to a Sailings calculation. Each method has it's limitations due to the construction of the formulae used with each method. Each method has its limitations in accuracy: Plane Sailing about 50 miles. Mid-Latitude Sailing about 600 miles. Probable to 1200 miles but errors creep in. Need to calculate to more than 4 places in 90d and 270d direction. Mercator Sailing about 2000+ miles. But within the navigation quadrant you are sailing in. If you cross a quadrant it takes the LONG way 'round. Rhumbline Sailing the greatest distance, most accurate for DR. But a constant rhumbline will take you to the pole. Estimated position (EP) is the DR calculation with the current affect accounted for. >> My problem with these multi-day legs is that I've always worked out >> shorter leg DR problems graphically on a chart. I can now easily >> generate charts for anywhere in the world thanks to the chart plotting >> software this group has led me to, but the scale isn't large enough to >> work out the solution graphically. Are you using some sort of distance >> formula or a table somewhere (or a Nav. calculator) to arrive at the DR >> position. I've only done day-long coastal cruises but I always figured >> you would still work out DR positions over a shorter elapsed time, if >> for no other reason then that the wind conditions would vary enough to >> give different cruising speeds and even headings. In practice you break down your distance's to what ever method you are using. And start a new leg as you near you maximum distance. However, if I did that with every Silicon Sea Leg, my 3 yearold grandson would finish this trip. If you have the Silicon Sea archive, take a look at the first 20 legs out of Mallorca to see what I mean. >> I'm not complaining, mind you, just that I could use some help in >> working the long-leg DR problems. What's the trick? You need to calculate using one of the Sailings. Either longhand, or with trig tables(UGH!), or use a calculator or computer program. >I'd like to know that too. I sometimes do it graphically >on a makeshift chart, and sometimes mathematically using >crude trig, but afterwards, I have to skip ahead to the answers >and use the official DR solution to finish the problems. As the old story goes. After plotting a FIX the Midshipman placed a cross with a sharp N0.3 pencil on the chart, and said, "We are here." The first mate placed a finger over the cross and said, "We are about here." The Captain came in, slapped a big beefy hand down on the chart and said, "We are somewhere around here." A WWII merchant marine Captain that tutored me used Mid-Latitude Sailing for his dead reckoning, H.O. 211, Ageton for sight reductions. All pertinent data was kept in a notebook and handmade plotting sheets. He had to pay for his own charts and navigation equipment so he seldom marked up the charts. Dan Hogan WA6PBY dhhogan@nav.cnchost.com http://nav.cnchost.com Catalina 27 "GACHA"