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    Re: An interesting question
    From: Greg Rudzinski
    Date: 2013 Oct 12, 09:48 -0700

    Just stepped out to the poop deck of my ketch here at Channel Islands Harbor to see what a set of four observations would give me using the calm surface of the harbor as an artificial horizon. What appeared to be calm wasn't. Looking through a 4X scope showed significant rippling of the Sun. A guess at the center was made on the reflected Sun image.

    Intercepts 1.6'A, 8.3'A, 1.1'A, 1.3'A

    Amazingly accurate considering the instability of the reflected image.

    Greg Rudzinski


    Re: An interesting question
    From: Peter Monta
    Date: 2013 Oct 11, 23:00 -0700
    Lu Abel writes:

    > moon directly aft of my stern. So I whipped out my sextant and used the
    > waters as an AH. Reduced my sight and was disappointed to come out about 20
    > miles from my KP.

    That's interesting---was the image rippling at all? It's harder to
    explain a 20-arcminute offset if the image was visually almost still
    or rippling just a tiny bit.

    That brings up the question: how good are "flat calm" liquid surfaces
    from an image-stability point of view? They must range from shielded
    AH on land (subarcminute at the very worst, maybe subarcsecond for all
    I know, or at least diffraction-limited by the eye or scope, not the
    AH aperture itself) to slightly ruffled seas in which the Sun or Moon
    looks like a smear when averaged over many seconds. But even that
    smear has some useful information. I wonder to what extent it would
    average down if a navigator were forced to take many sights like this
    in an emergency situation.

    Cheers,
    Peter
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