NavList:
A Community Devoted to the Preservation and Practice of Celestial Navigation and Other Methods of Traditional Wayfinding
Re: Automatic deviation calculation by electronic compasses
From: Lu Abel
Date: 2009 Dec 03, 19:34 -0800
From: Lu Abel
Date: 2009 Dec 03, 19:34 -0800
Joe: Thanks for your insightful comments. Some of the comments on this list listing all the reasons why new technology (from GPS's to auto-compensating compasses) shouldn't work remind me of the old saw "according to aeronautical engineers, the bumblebee shouldn't be able to fly; not being an aeronautical engineer, the bumblebee keeps flying." The only comment I'd make here is that the job of a compass in an autopilot is significantly different than that of being a course-indicting compass. The job of an autopilot's compass is to keep whatever course the helmsman sets into it (typically by steering in the correct direction and then punching "set" into the autopilot). At that point it doesn't matter which direction the fluxgate thinks it's pointing; it's job is merely to tell the autopilot when it's no longer pointing in that direction. So, for example, it doesn't matter whether an autopilot's compass's "lubber line" is aligned with the boat's keel or perpendicular to it. joseph_schultz@rrv.net wrote: > George, the sweet spot is relative to the capability of the computer to create a deviation equation/table which, although you won't see it, may be as curvy as your favorite Greek goddess. Also relevant to the sweet spot is the need to be "far enough" away from transient field sources, such as electrical cables or transmitting antennas, but this isn't part of the deviation question. > > Do steel vessels exist in your area, George? Ferries, commercial fishing boats, yachts, etc? How about taking a trip down reality lane and finding them? I'll bet at least some have autopilots. And at least some of those use a fluxgate or equivalent as direction input. How are their sensor assemblies mounted in the real world? You'll see, if you choose to look and ask, the successful installations are pretty simple, and rarely high on the mast as you (and Bowditch-2002) think are needed. > > No idea what "warship bristle" means - an armchair term? Going aloft isn't a big deal. Maintenance gets done and new sailors get initiated. > > One author's very short synopsis of the still prevailing point of view, regarding aluminum superstructures vs. battle damage in the Falklands War, can be found here: > > http://www.hazegray.org/faq/smn6.htm > > Scroll down to sections F.6 and F.7. Not mentioned is the maintenance headache - gasketing was used to isolate the very, very special steel from normal steel in a mostly futile attempt to prevent bi-metallic corrosion. On my ships you could see holes where the very, very special steel bulkheads met the normal steel main deck. The very, very special steel in the Oliver Hazard Perry class frigates was also in the hull. Back to the topic: fluxgates were installed on all-steel Naval vessels, before the ring laser gyros were proven and retrofitted, and they worked. > > Joe > > > -- NavList message boards: www.fer3.com/arc Or post by email to: NavList@fer3.com To , email NavList+@fer3.com