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    Re: Back sights.
    From: Bill B
    Date: 2010 Mar 18, 22:01 -0400

    If I recall, I have read a mention of backsights being used aboard naval 
    vessels when other vessels blocked the view they wanted.  I do not 
    recall the specifics.
    
    Bill B.
    On 3/18/10 5:57 PM, George Huxtable wrote:
    > The original purpose of the backsight, in which the horizon was viewed in 
    the opposite direction (and was never, as far as I know,
    > used with a telescope) was to allow a lunar, greater than 90º, to be 
    measured with an octant. The mirror-view would then cover the
    > arc from vertically above, right round to observing the horizon at the back 
    of his neck. Another application for such an instrument
    > was on land, in measuring the altitude of a body, when it was greater than 
    45º, using a reflecting artificial horizon. Lewis and
    > Clark had such an instrument, which they used with their usual lack of understanding and competence.
    >
    > Sometimes such an instrument could be used to measure an altitude of the Sun 
    off a coast, not from the horizon beneath it, if that
    > was blocked by nearby land, but from the horizon at an opposite azimuth. For 
    example , Malaspina, in his circumnavigation, recorded
    > a morning Sun observation, off the Andean coast of South America, with a similar instrument.
    >
    > Backsights were possible with the early wooden instruments, which could be 
    up to 18 inches radius, because they were tall enough to
    > allow the back view from the index mirror to clear the top of the observer's 
    head. Indeed, early brass sextants were almost as big,
    > and some carried backsights to extend their angular range.
    >
    > Cook's second circumnavigation, departing 1771, was provided with two 
    15-inch brass sextants, one by Dollond and another by Ramsden,
    > both fitted with backsights, as described on page xx of  Andrew David et al, 
     "The charts and coastal views of Captain Cook's
    > Voyages", vol 2. Hakluyt Society, 1992.  It reports that Wales and Bayley , 
    the astronomers of the expedition, measured Sun lunars
    > of up to 155º!
    >
    > As instruments became smaller, the backsight view would no longer clear the 
    observer's head. As lunar distance predictions were
    > never quoted for angles greater than 120º, the limit of a standard sextant, 
    there was no call to go further. When the Sun-Moon angle
    > exceeded 120º, navigators had to switch to a star lunar instead, which 
    presented no great difficulty; it was part of their training.
    >
    > The big problem with the backsight was this: With the familiar geometry of a 
    foresight, the index error of the instrument was
    > quickly obtained by aligning an object with itself. That was not possible 
    with a backsight. It might be possible to check one end of
    > its scale, by aligning the fore horizon with the aft horizon, if they could 
    both be seen together, but that observation would
    > include twice the dip, an unpredictable quantity. Some index mirrors had a 
    special facet ground exactly 90º from the main surface,
    > to aid such alignment, which could be as good as was the precision of that 
    set angle. But otherwise, I imagine that mariners
    > accepted any backsight index-error as it came, without checking. On land, 
    given appropriate distant landmarks, I can imagine ways of
    > doing the job with some difficuly. However, there's no sign that Lewis and 
    Clark ever verified the error in their backsights. If any
    > reader can suggest ways of dealing with such offset error, on land or sea, I am ready to learn.
    
    
    
    

       
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