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Re: Backlash
From: Bill B
Date: 2005 Nov 11, 11:56 -0500
From: Bill B
Date: 2005 Nov 11, 11:56 -0500
Alex wrote: > Could you make the following experiment for me: > determine the backlash of your sextant. > This is very simple. Alex As we both know, you hand is steadier and eye better than mine. For other readers, my instrument is a year-old Astra IIIB deluxe, 3.5X scope, with traditional split mirror. I may be guilty of the politician/lawyer trick of deciding if I don't want to answer the question at hand, answer a question of my own choosing. (And after the last 4 posts, why read on;-) I find my ability to align a faint star to have a rather large standard deviation (especially after the first few observations) unless a good bit of side error is present. I would reference the article Frank pointed out (Sept. 05 Sky & Telescope) as a possible cause. Referring to posts about the eye being able to beat the theoretical limits of acuity when dealing with lines, I prefer to use small diameter power for the test you proposed. What I "think" I know from this is: 1. My ability to detect touch and leave (wire appearing to be in alignment and wire appearing to leave alignment) is at best plus/minus 0.1' in either direction. That I regard as *my* ability to "see" with my instrument. Note these tests were tripod mounted so the sextant was plumb. Note the focus was not changed (a problem noted in off-list posts) during the tests, and these were before the slight lateral play in the front of the index arm became noticeable. Also note my impression (based on answers to my list questions) for side-error or backlash tests do not seem to be distance dependent--they align or they do not align. (Alignment of a phone or power line may be less than zero, but so what if if they agree?) 2. When testing for touch and leave with drum rotation in either direction, any difference possibly caused by backlash was below my threshold (0.1') of seeing. I can pretty much confirm that in determining IE from touching the limbs of the Sun in both drum directions. I am sorry that is not what you asked for, but I tend to play the odds and go with methods that I can statistically prove give me repeatable results (with the lowest standard deviation). That being said, I could notice no significant change due to rotating the drum in either direction. Of course, there must be backlash in any gear system, but it is below my ability to detect it--just noise from my vantage point. This was born out in recent Sun IE checks where, in one case, I separated the images in both directions--using opposite drum rotation; and in the other case I brought the images to touch (using the method in a recent post) for one set of limb observations and separated the images using the same drum rotation for the other set. As my 4XSD averages were less than 0.1' of each other with a standard deviation well below 0.1', I pretty much feel I have hit the limits of this man/machine combination under ideal conditions. I imagine as the gears wear and develop more backlash (despite spring tension), or if I were using a plastic unit, I might pay more attention. For the moment nothing significant to report for practical use. Lunars and star-to-star are limited more by my lack of ability and possible errors along the arc than by backlash. Bill