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Re: Celestial predictions. was:[NAV-L] Old style lunar
From: Alexandre Eremenko
Date: 2004 Dec 12, 01:13 -0500
From: Alexandre Eremenko
Date: 2004 Dec 12, 01:13 -0500
George, I think you misundertood what Frank was saying. (I also did not understand his first message, but then he explained) On Sat, 11 Dec 2004, George Huxtable wrote: > >>It's no longer necessary to do this algorithmically. > >> Just open a virtual > >>almanac page. > >From George- > > That's all very well, but in practical terms, what does a mariner, > given an > on-board laptop, do to obtain positions by such methods > as Frank > advocates, when at sea? The mariner is supposed to download NASA database BEFORE she goes to sea. This database constitutes an almanac for several hundred years. THIS, of course replaces Meeus algorithm. The whole thing occupies only 10MB, which is nothing for a modern laptop. But I recommend to have a backup. (What if the disc crashes). (Or even better, to carry a spare copy of paper almanac:-) Much cheaper and more reliable than a spare laptop. > In practical terms, there's no requirement for position > accuracy to be to > an arc-second. > Meeus' algorithms do all that's necessary to obtain on-board > positions to quite sufficient accuracy for any maritime application, lunar > distances included.. I suppose if you take ALL terms in Meeus you will also obtain 1 arcsec accuracy. But this is many hours of programming! I think this discussion was not about "practical navigator's needs". At least my original question was not. I just wanted to write my own long term almanac (independent of Frank's site, and of the web in general), partially for fun of doing it, partially to be able to answer all sorts of questions about Tiho Brahe and maybe even Hipparchus observations. And also to be able to reduce my balcony sights quickly. Alex. P.S. If I will ever do CelNav in sea, I don't want to depend on such a fragile device as computer for my main tool: the almanac.