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Re: GPS as a time authority
From: Lu Abel
Date: 2009 Sep 16, 18:31 -0700
From: Lu Abel
Date: 2009 Sep 16, 18:31 -0700
Whoa!! The problem is with the amount of time it takes an OLD GPS receiver to display the time, not their internal knowledge of time. Apparently the early developers of GPS receivers didn't take into account that people would want time to split-second accuracy -- it's certainly possible for receivers to display the time correctly. For older receivers that might have meant anticipating the time it would take for the time to be displayed. Respectfully suggest that we learn the model numbers and age of these "slow" GPS receivers before we condemn all GPS receivers. douglas.denny@btopenworld.com wrote: > I am surprised that the software involved in these GPS receivers is as bad as is reported. It is a terrible inditement of the technology that having a signal available accurate to within a fraction of a microsecond they cannot display the correct time to within eight seconds! > > The GPS signal itself is unbelievably accurate, and contains within it the full information necessary to indicate exactly which rise-time of the second square-wave pulse is a particular second in UTC. > > It should be possible to indicate on a display at least to the nearest second allowing for an update of the display screen and an allowance for the processing time. > > My first-generation GPS Trimble Transpak II is one second behind UTC for a screen update. The updates can be variable depending on the processing; the indicated time jumping by two or three seconds sometimes instead of a continueous count, but the update is within one second behind UTC. > > It being produced pre-2000 though, it does not contain in the software the ability to distinguish the correct year! It indicates presently 31 Jan 09 - but the 24 hour time is fine to within one second. > > Another anomaly which is software dependent with some GPS receivers is the ability to display the velocity of the observer: some devices only start to indicate if more than a certain velocity is achieved, say five MPH. The Trimble displays what it finds down to fractions of an MPH or Knot or Metres/sec as set for display. > > Douglas Denny. > Chichester. England. > > ========================= > Original Post:- > > I own among other an older Magellan GPS 300. > Once I checked my radio clock against it and found a difference of > several seconds (!). Even more disturbing was, that the difference was > gaining visually observable. > > Finally I realized, that whenever the time display page of the unit was > opened, the time was in accordance with the the radio clock. > > My conclusion is, there must be a very odd internal mechanism to display > the time (software counter or similar), that is started with the > original reading of the GPS signal every time one goes to this page. > > /Thomas > > > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ NavList message boards: www.fer3.com/arc Or post by email to: NavList@fer3.com To , email NavList-@fer3.com -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---