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Re: Kollsman averagers
From: Werner Luehmann
Date: 2009 Nov 25, 21:36 +0100
From: Werner Luehmann
Date: 2009 Nov 25, 21:36 +0100
All my Kollsman periscopic sextants with the pendulous mirror (made in Germany and UK, under Kollsman licence) have the two minutes averager. Werner Am Mittwoch, 25. November 2009 20:24:22 schrieb Gary LaPook: > Even if the individual sights within the average are more accurate with > the MA-1 than with the bubble instruments the mirror is still subject to > the same accelerations as the bubble. These are of two types, random, > caused by turbulence, and periodic, caused by the normal oscillations of > the aircraft about its three axes such as phugoid and dutch roll, with > are sinusoidal in nature. To eliminate or minimize the random errors > "more is better." Taking a greater number of sights will result in a > better average so taking more sights during the two minute period works > for both bubble and mirror artificial horizons. The natural oscillation > period of large aircraft is about 40 seconds and to minimize the errors > caused by them it is best if the averaging period matches the period of > the aircraft or exact multiples of it. Two minutes matches three such > periods while one minute is only one and a half periods and so will > leave an inherent error in the data and the bias will depend upon where > in the cycle the observation starts. > > gl > > douglas.denny@btopenworld.com wrote: > > May I offer a possible explanation? It is only a guess however. > > The pendulous reference is easier to use than a bubble, being an horizon > > indicator rather than a circle in which the star is placed. This I > > believe gives simpler and greater accuracy of observation than a bubble > > where the observer has to estimate the centre placement of the star in > > the bubble, and hence would require less time to complete an assessment > > of the star alignment with the reference. > > > > The oscillation period of a large aircraft I would have expected to be > > within a minute anyway, so anything above one minute is not necessarily > > going to increase accuracy on this count. The only increase in accuracy > > would be if there are longer term accelerations present (such as an > > unwanted inadvertent side-slip) corrected within the time period of > > observation. > > > > The only answer must be ultimately that tests would have been carried out > > by Kollsman and they probably found little difference in results for the > > one minute as opposed to two minute observation periods. > > > > Douglas Denny. > > Chichester. England. -- NavList message boards: www.fer3.com/arc Or post by email to: NavList@fer3.com To , email NavList+@fer3.com