Welcome to the NavList Message Boards.

NavList:

A Community Devoted to the Preservation and Practice of Celestial Navigation and Other Methods of Traditional Wayfinding

Compose Your Message

Message:αβγ
Message:abc
Add Images & Files
    Name or NavList Code:
    Email:
       
    Reply
    Re: On LOPs
    From: Steven Tripp
    Date: 2002 Apr 16, 12:06 +0900

    On 4/16/02 9:36 AM, "Jared Sherman"  wrote:
    
    > So far I haven't seen any justification for the "most probable" position, much
    > less for the use of an ellipse (which has 2 focii) rather than a circle (with
    > one focii, i.e. center) when using 3 or more LOPs (which would indicate a need
    > for 3 or more "focii").
    
    The ellipse is based on formulas from the Nautical Almanac.  I wrote the
    program more than twelve years ago based upon those formulas, but my oldest
    Almanac (1992) doesn't seem to contain them anymore.
    
    The confidence ellipse is just a two-dimensional version of the standard
    one-dimensional confidence interval used in statistics.
    
    The DR position is irrelevant and is plotted only for navigational
    convenience.
    
    The MPP seems to be "pulled" towards the LOP intersection which is most near
    90 degrees.  In the ideal situation the three LOPs will cross at 60 degrees
    and form an equilateral triangle.  The MPP will be at the center of the
    ellipse and the ellipse will be a circle.
    
    When the intersecting angles of the LOPs are quite different the ellipse
    will be elongated.  The MPP will be at the CENTER of the ellipse, not at a
    focus.  The center will NOT be the center of the cocked hat.
    
    Note that part of the cocked hat may be outside the confidence ellipse.  The
    size of the ellipse depends on the confidence level.  A 99% ellipse will be
    large.  A 50% ellipse will be small.
    
    The number of LOPs does not matter, except that with more lines the size of
    the ellipse will be less, indicating greater confidence.  This is a standard
    statistical effect.  A larger (random) sample reduces the probability of
    error.  Each LOP you observe is a random sample from the infinity of
    (randomly different) lines which could have been observed at that moment.
    
    I attach two GIFs:  one with three LOPs at quite different angles, and one
    with twelve LOPS.
    
    Steve Tripp
    
    
    
    
    
    

    File:


    File:


       
    Reply
    Browse Files

    Drop Files

    NavList

    What is NavList?

    Get a NavList ID Code

    Name:
    (please, no nicknames or handles)
    Email:
    Do you want to receive all group messages by email?
    Yes No

    A NavList ID Code guarantees your identity in NavList posts and allows faster posting of messages.

    Retrieve a NavList ID Code

    Enter the email address associated with your NavList messages. Your NavList code will be emailed to you immediately.
    Email:

    Email Settings

    NavList ID Code:

    Custom Index

    Subject:
    Author:
    Start date: (yyyymm dd)
    End date: (yyyymm dd)

    Visit this site
    Visit this site
    Visit this site
    Visit this site
    Visit this site
    Visit this site