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Re: Lat/Long by Noon Sun
From: Gary LaPook
Date: 2009 Apr 27, 15:15 -0700
From: Gary LaPook
Date: 2009 Apr 27, 15:15 -0700
Well I was impressed by the level of accuracy they achieved since it is much better than the 5 nm level of accuracy that has been discussed lately using sun sights around the time of noon. gl On Apr 27, 10:49�am, "George Huxtable"wrote: > Gary Lapook wrote, in response to a posting by Henry Halboth- > > You might be surprised by the level of accuracy in determining the longitude > from equal altitude sights:http://articles.adsabs.harvard.edu//full/1919PA.....27..359W/0000359....http://articles.adsabs.harvard.edu//full/1919PA....27..359W/0000363.... > > (most of the "meat" is in the first of these links) > ===================== > > Comment from George- > > This was an interesting 1916 paper which, in part, describes the preliminary > determination by sextant of the location of an observation station near > Baker, Oregon, which later became accurately known by precise astronomy. > > It was made using equal altitudes of the Sun, presumably (though we are not > given such details) using an artificial horizon. > > I don't think anyone should be surprised by the accuracy achieved. Indeed, > it was worse than they expected, being out by about 1 second of time (15 > arc-seconds) in longitude, and nearly half a minute in latitude. This, > despite many averagings over several days, with none of the uncertainties > that arise when looking at a real horizon from the deck of a vessel. > > Although it's been posted under the threadname "Lat/Long by Noon Sun", it > really had nothing to do with a noon Sun. The author tells us that his equal > altitudes were taken in the forenoon and the afternoon, without stating > exactly what time. But I suspect that they were made several hours apart, so > that the two Sun azimuths differed by somewhere near to the optimum angle of > 90 degrees. > > They ended up suspecting that errors in the latitude could be due to > inaccuracies in their Brandis sextant, though that shouldn't affect the > equal-altitude longitudes. > > I'm unsure about the lessons that Gary expected us to draw from that paper > (he didn't say) but it tells us nothing about longitude-around-noon (except > that it's avoided when precision is called for), and had no relevance to the > points Henry was making. > > George. > > contact George Huxtable, at �geo...@hux.me.uk > or at+44 1865 820222(from UK, 01865 820222) > or at 1 Sandy Lane, Southmoor, Abingdon, Oxon OX13 5HX, UK. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Navigation List archive: www.fer3.com/arc To post, email NavList@fer3.com To , email NavList-@fer3.com -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---