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    Re: Latitude AND Longitude by Noon Sun+GPS
    From: Kieran Kelly
    Date: 2004 Jan 26, 10:27 +1100

    Jared Sherman wrote:
    
    "I have to wonder, if one is someplace so overgrown, or so deep in the
    canyons, that one cannot get a useable GPS view of the sky, just how much
    use a sextant will be?
    
    If the GPS can't see the sky, how is the sextant going to do any better?
    Sniping through the treetops at the few bodies that will only be present in
    cloudless skies?"
    
    Yes Jared, that is very true.
    
    I have tried to use sextants in inland Australia on many occasions and in
    even variable scrub cover, it becomes very difficult. You can sometimes see
    the glimmer through the trees but it becomes tedious moving the artificial
    horizon around. Impossible if there is a breeze moving the leaves. What
    tends to happen is that you shoot stars of a very high altitude.
    
    In canyons and gorges it is not so bad. You can wait for bodies to pass over
    the gorge walls and take a shot. Often you are looking down the gorge. this
    will give an LOP which will intersect  (usually) the gorge or river feature
    marked on a map. This is like having one LOP, a gorge, river etc already
    marked on the map, over which you lay an LOP derived from CN. The only
    problem with this is you have to know exactly which gorge or river you are
    on. In multi stream situations or very fractured gorge country this can
    become debatable.
    
    The great advantage we have in this country is that the dry season skies are
    always cloudless. You can go for months and not see a cloud.
    
    However before GPS, before the sextant, before Hooke's quadrant and the
    Astrolabe there was that  prince of instruments - the compass. No matter the
    scrub cover, no matter how deep the gorge, during the sweltering noon or by
    the light of a bright morning star it will never let you down. It's always
    switched on and yet never runs out of batteries.
    
    I never set foot out of doors in this country without my Francis Barker
    prismatic as I feel with it I will never get lost. However I see people from
    here and abroad heading into the wilderness loaded down with GPS gear who
    couldn't tell east or west from Orion's belt if it fell on their head.
    
    Kieran Kelly
    Sydney
    Australia
    
    
    
    
    
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Navigation Mailing List
    [mailto:NAVIGATION-L@LISTSERV.WEBKAHUNA.COM]On Behalf Of Jared Sherman
    Sent: Monday, 26 January 2004 9:36 AM
    To: NAVIGATION-L@LISTSERV.WEBKAHUNA.COM
    Subject: Re: Latitude AND Longitude by Noon Sun+GPS
    
    
    

       
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