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Re: Longitude by meridian transit/ fishline sextant
From: Gary LaPook
Date: 2010 Feb 16, 10:06 -0800
From: Gary LaPook
Date: 2010 Feb 16, 10:06 -0800
I'm guessing that a "Heath-Robinson arrangement" is the English equivalent of the American "Rube Goldberg device," gl George Huxtable wrote: > Wayne, via "Rebecca Lowry", asked- > about "Longitude by meridian transit/ fishline sextant" > > > Cool, > A new toy to make.... > > Any idea what the numbers on page 2-109 for the year are? > And how do we find the numbers for the current year? > Wayne > > =========== > > Those numbers sum up to provide GHA Aries, in arc-minutes. But for this > application, it's absurd to bother allowing for such a year-to-year > variation. If a constant value of around 35 was chosen, unchanging from year > to year, that would be perfectly compatible with the precision that the > method is capable of providing. > > The claim is, as Mike Boersma repeats, a precision in precision of 10 miles, > which requires latitude and longitude to be within one sixth of a > degree.That would require the following quantities components to be known, > or set, within the appropriate accuracies, all within 10 arc-minutes. > > GMT to 40 seconds (quite plausible) > A pendulum string, some few metres long, hanging steady and vertical in the > open air, with no shielding from wind. > Another string, a few metres long, set accurately horizontal, with no > guidance given as to how to achieve that. > That horizontal string to be set precisely in a North-South direction "by > using a compass". No mention of variation. > Another diagonal string, tensioned to be straight enough to measure an angle > from, attached part-way up the length of the vertical pendulum, which > doesn't kink that vertical string out of straight. > A paper protractor, for measuring the angle between two bits of string in > space. > > All these are supposed to combine together to give a precision in the result > amounting to 10 arc minutes!. With such a Heath-Robinson arrangement, anyone > who got the answer right within a couple of degrees, or 120 miles, would be > doing well. > > There's nothing wrong, in principle, with any component of this scheme. But > it's a procedure that looks as if it's been assembled by a committee, given > the job of knocking up some sort of emergency manual. Completely > unrealistic. > > George. > > contact George Huxtable, at george@hux.me.uk > or at +44 1865 820222 (from UK, 01865 820222) > or at 1 Sandy Lane, Southmoor, Abingdon, Oxon OX13 5HX, UK. > > ===================== > > > --- On Mon, 2/15/10, Mike Boersma wrote: > > > From: Mike Boersma > Subject: [NavList] Longitude by meridian transit/ fishline sextant > To: NavList@fer3.com > Date: Monday, February 15, 2010, 12:48 PM > > > > The US Airforce survival manual from the 1960's included a description of > how to make a fishline sextant and tables for determining longitude and > latitude from its use. > The claimed accuracy is 10 miles. Individual results may vary. > Mike Boersma > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > NavList message boards and member settings: www.fer3.com/NavList > Members may optionally receive posts by email. > To cancel email delivery, send a message to NoMail[at]fer3.com > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >