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Re: Lunar Distance Puzzle
From: UNK
Date: 2011 Aug 21, 15:24 +0000
From: UNK
Date: 2011 Aug 21, 15:24 +0000
Dave, When I compute the distances from the app. Moon position that you are giving below to the three stars in question, I obtain results that differ by up to 8" from the distances that you posted on 8/16 in your "refraction-free" problem. Unless I am making a bad mistake in my calculation, my star ephemeris must differ substantially from yours. I find both alternatives equally disturbing. Would you please post the positions of the three stars (whether geocentric or topocentric for the solution - it does not matter.) I obtained from MICA: Altair 19 51 23.125 + 8 54 05.51 Antares 16 30 09.432 - 26 27 28.66 Vega 18 37 22.186 + 38 47 49.42 Thanks, Herbert On 2011-08-21 02:43, Dave Walden wrote: > > Herbert raises an interesting idea that leads to a consistency check. > If the Lunar Distances from two of the stars are treated as circles of > position then, of their two intersection points, one should be at the > apparent position of the moon. (And one should get the same answer for > each of the three pairs!) I hadn't thought of things that way. > > So, since I had a linux machine up and running, I used the > topocentric-no refraction RA's and Dec's from the Xephem program with > the LD's provided earlier for the no refraction case, at the solultion > time and location. > > I get, using a usual two COP solver (picking the most interesting one > of two intersections in each case): > > vega-altair > -22° 47' 36.2" > +18° 32' 40.10" > > vega-antares > -22° 47' 36.2" > +18° 32' 40.11" > > altair-antares > -22° 47' 35.9" > +18° 32' 40.10" > > while the given apparent lunar position is: > > -22° 47' 36.1" > +18° 32' 40.10" > > I think I've understood correctly and entered all the data right. > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > NavList message boards and member settings: www.fer3.com/NavList > Members may optionally receive posts by email. > To cancel email delivery, send a message to NoMail[at]fer3.com > ---------------------------------------------------------------- >