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Re: Lunars: series vs. triangle methods
From: Jan Kalivoda
Date: 2004 Sep 27, 12:52 +0200
From: Jan Kalivoda
Date: 2004 Sep 27, 12:52 +0200
Only several words, I should do something quite different now. Frank R is right that the terminology of the "approximate" and "rigorous" methods is archaic. But Fred H is right that it is established. And as lunars are only of a historical interest, I don't understand, why not to use the terminology of their users. It is the matter of taste, of course. Herbert Prinz had objected to this terminology one year ago in this list, too. But he supposed that this terminology was contrived by Cotter, if I remember his thoughts correctly. This wasn't the case, as I had maintained and proved by sources cited then and as Frank's historical remarks now prove, too. The "rigorous" and "approximate" methods were two distinct classes of solutions, taken from the point of practice. The approximate (or serial) methods worked with small increments to the measured distance (the 1st, 2nd, 3rd correction in most of them) and 4-place logs sufficed to them. The "rigorous" (triangle) methods required 6-place logs and a tedious interpolation in them, as they sought the cleared distance directly from other elements of the spherical triangle. Very substantial difference for practitioners, indeed. In the theory, the approximate/serial methods can be so accurate as rigorous/triangle methods. But in the reality, most approximate solutions used simplifications so as to shorten their tables and to simplify their use. (George Huxtable's analysis of Arnold's tables showed this, two weeks ago. Chauvenet's and Bolte's methods make an exception, e.g.) It wasn't possible to push the accuracy to the last point working with those tables, as it was possible in ALL rigorous methods. But is wasn't necessary at sea, of course, and the accuracy of these approximate solutions had fully sufficed for sailors. If Frank R is attaining the accuracy of 0.2' in measuring LD's on land today, as he said some days ago, one must take into account the accuracy of 0.5' at sea in the early 19th century at least. (We had discussed this in the spring in a long thread.) And as George H cited from Chauvenet some days ago and as I had written during the previous year, Moon's positions in almanacs (and th! erefore the precomputed LD's) were sometimes in error of another 0.5' up to, say, 1880. The effect of e.g. elliptical earth's shape on the value of the cleared LD (some 11" at most and very rarely) was ridiculous against those factors. I cannot but refer to my article http://3web.dkm.cz/kalivoda/LunDistClass.htm for details once more. Cotter's text on lunars is quite insufficient from the historical point of view today. George H (with my and Herbert P's little help - see Ringo Star) published the long list of his errors on Internet for the list members and others - see http://www.huxtable.u-net.com/cotter01.htm. And I strived to fill up some his gaps in the article cited above. But Cotter's text, although a rare book now, is definitely more available than Mendoza's paper, which is published for the interested persons only 20 days ago, (many) thanks to Frank Reed. Previously it was buried in several specialized libraries (but maybe I am wrong in Prague). Cotter can be used for 40 years today. He cannot be blamed too much. In the sixties, there wasn't much interest in the HISTORY of CelNav, some ten specialists throughout the world excepted - and they weren't more informed in details than Cotter, I guess. Cotter was a real beginner, as Frank R defines them. Jan Kalivoda