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Re: NG's "Midnight Fun"
From: George Huxtable
Date: 2010 Jun 11, 15:52 +0100
From: George Huxtable
Date: 2010 Jun 11, 15:52 +0100
contact George Huxtable, at george@hux.me.uk or at +44 1865 820222 (from UK, 01865 820222) or at 1 Sandy Lane, Southmoor, Abingdon, Oxon OX13 5HX, UK. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Herbert Prinz" <666@poorherbert.org> To:Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 2:43 PM Subject: [NavList] Re: NG's "Midnight Fun" Herbert Prinz wrote | So, if I understand correctly what George is saying, it's a combination | of effects and the horizontal spacing of the sun images gives us a | measure of how much is due to distortion. Reply from George- Yes: but those spacings, being mostly mostly in the radial direction from the picture's centre, provide a measure of the local radial magnification in that part of the picture. The local circumferential magnification, which controls the apparent height, would be expected to be much less; about a third of the radial magnification, in the pinhole case. George. contact George Huxtable, at george@hux.me.uk or at +44 1865 820222 (from UK, 01865 820222) or at 1 Sandy Lane, Southmoor, Abingdon, Oxon OX13 5HX, UK. | George Huxtable wrote: | > It's | > clear that the gaps between the Sun images, nominally 5 degrees, are | > increasing as they depart from the centre region | > | It did not notice this before. These gaps increase roughly in proportion | to the height of the sun over the horizon. | > Even after all this, the enhancement of the dimensions of the outer Suns on | > that picture seems even greater than the simple pinhole model would | > predict. | Exactly. This was the point of my comment to Peter. If we measured the | height of the sun in multiples of its apparent diameter at each moment, | the actual sun would be lower towards the edges than in the middle. | | So, if I understand correctly what George is saying, it's a combination | of effects and the horizontal spacing of the sun images gives us a | measure of how much is due to distortion. | | Herbert Prinz | | | |