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Re: Navigation without Leap Seconds
From: Frank Reed
Date: 2008 Apr 18, 02:20 -0400
From: Frank Reed
Date: 2008 Apr 18, 02:20 -0400
Fred, you wrote: "The author states that height can only be known to some few cm or whatever because of variations in gravity, if I remember correctly. It would seem that this is due to our tradition of assuming we are on the surface of a spheroid or ellipsoid when doing navigation." The assumption they mentioned is the "geoid" which is a complicated surface of contant gravitational potential. So we're well beyond the ellipsoid already when it comes to extremely precise measurements. "Confining ourselves to a surface makes the trig easier, but couldn't one position oneself with greater accuracy (with feet firmly planted on earth, not on a boat) using only stars or stars plus the sun, ignoring the earth's horizon, by measuring star-star distances? Make it a true 3-D problem. Or would uncertainties in the positions of stars still hamper ones efforts, especially uncertainty in their distance from us?" Stars? No. Much too far away. We need much closer objects whose positions would shift noticeably relative to the distant starry background. So why don't we launch some fake stars into orbit close to the Earth? And since timings are easier to measure than angles, we'll put some transmitters on our fake stars. As I'm sure you've recognized, this is just the GPS system. But it wasn't designed for that next level of accuracy, a couple of orders of magnitude higher, required by the next generation of atomic clocks. That's the trouble. Necessity is the mother of invention, and I'm sure someone will invent a solution, especially if anyone can think of a practical application of these super-clocks. It may be the case, though, that the business of ever more accurate time measurement has hit a brick wall with no means of comparing clocks at different locations which may last for a few decades conceivably. -FER --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Navigation List archive: www.fer3.com/arc To post, email NavList@fer3.com To , email NavList-@fer3.com -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---