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Re: Observator Mark 4 Sextant
From: R B Emerson
Date: 2008 Aug 14, 17:06 -0400
From: R B Emerson
Date: 2008 Aug 14, 17:06 -0400
Forget all that. You're
quite right in raising the the issues of allowing "raw" sunlight into
the scope and questioning the light gathering for star shots. While
dimmer stars might still be visible, the horizon may pose a problem in
that reduced light gathering will mean the horizon can become unusable
sooner than with a brighter image. But this is minor compared to the
following...
As to allowing unfiltered sunlight into the scope, in astronomical circles this generally a major no-no for solar observing. While Herschel wedges can be used as light attenuators, if they fail, the observer will get a blast of concentrated sunlight (resulting in anything from corneal burns to retinal burns to permanent blindness). Even if the filter is, in effect, fail-proof, the instrument itself will certainly heat up (after all, the Sun's busy emitting in the IR, too) and that poses a number problems. Should the filters either burn through or the control inadvertently be flipped to "clear", the observer's eye is at risk. Given this issue alone, concern over the filters' surfaces being parallel or not is an exercise in "rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic". (For the record, I also question the reasoning that supports "the filters don't have to have parallel surfaces")
Rick Emerson
S/V One With The Wind
All in all, this sextant strikes me as an interesting, but ultimately futile, attempt at a better sextant mouse trap.
George Huxtable wrote:
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As to allowing unfiltered sunlight into the scope, in astronomical circles this generally a major no-no for solar observing. While Herschel wedges can be used as light attenuators, if they fail, the observer will get a blast of concentrated sunlight (resulting in anything from corneal burns to retinal burns to permanent blindness). Even if the filter is, in effect, fail-proof, the instrument itself will certainly heat up (after all, the Sun's busy emitting in the IR, too) and that poses a number problems. Should the filters either burn through or the control inadvertently be flipped to "clear", the observer's eye is at risk. Given this issue alone, concern over the filters' surfaces being parallel or not is an exercise in "rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic". (For the record, I also question the reasoning that supports "the filters don't have to have parallel surfaces")
Rick Emerson
S/V One With The Wind
All in all, this sextant strikes me as an interesting, but ultimately futile, attempt at a better sextant mouse trap.
George Huxtable wrote:
A further thought about this "Observator" sextant has struck me. Bill Morris wrote, in [6123]- Members can read the original patent document at http://v3.espacenet.com/origdoc?DB=EPODOC&IDX=EP0082556&F=0&QPN=EP0082556. Its claim to originality are that the filters are contained safely within the viewing means and that they can be made of cheap material like photographic film, as they do not have to have flat parallel faces, lying as they do behind the objective lens of a Galilean telescope. ============= Which brought this comment from me in [6129]- It's true that the two filters do indeed "lie behind the objective", but so far behind it that they are closely in front of the Galilean eyepiece. There, they sit side by side, the horizon shade to the left and the reflected-light shade to the right, controlled by separate adjusting knobs. ============= But is Bill's comment correct, that therefore "they do not have to have flat parallel faces"? Imagine a thin wedge prism, being deliberately interposed into the optics, in just one side of the split viewline, just before the light enters the eyepiece lens. Wouldn't that displace the apparent direction of one of those images, by the deflection-angle of the prism, as seen through the eyepiece, and not the other? If that's correct, then the requirement for optical quality in the shade, in its new position, is no less than it is in a traditional sextant design. And if so, the suggestion that the accuracy of the instrument would not be degraded by the use of photographic film, instead of optically flat glass, is at least questionable. George. contact George Huxtable at george@huxtable.u-net.com or at +44 1865 820222 (from UK, 01865 820222) or at 1 Sandy Lane, Southmoor, Abingdon, Oxon OX13 5HX, UK.
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