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Re: Refraction at the horizon.
From: George Huxtable
Date: 2008 Mar 19, 19:52 -0000
From: George Huxtable
Date: 2008 Mar 19, 19:52 -0000
We have been discussing "Refraction near the horizon", Publ. astron. society of the Pacific, vol 102, pages 796 - 805 (July 1990), by Schaefer and Liller. I have now made contact with an author of that paper, Brad Schaefer. He acknowledges that the quantity being measured, by the sunset timings, is indeed total refraction, in the path from the Sun, then tangent to the ocean surface, then up to the observer. So that refraction is greater than the horizontal refraction observed at the sea-surface, and if the observer is on a mountain, significantly so. It then seems wrong, to me, to put together all that data, some from high altitudes, and some from near sea level, into a common data set, and analyse it for scatter, without attempting some sort of correction for observer's altitude. Schaefer defends it in these terms- "The effect is there but small and largely swamped by the variations." I do not go along with that, and have had a go at extracting better information from his data. Schaefer and Liller quote an average horizontal refraction for 144 observations as 33.1' +/- 9.6', where the quoted error corresponds to 1 standard deviation, so about two-thirds of observations should lie within that range. I have translated their values, given in degrees, to minutes. This accords pretty well with Meeus' quoted result from that paper, that "the refraction at the horizon fluctuates fluctuates by 0.3 degrees around a mean value normally, and in some cases apparently much more". What I have done next is to include only those sunset timings that have been taken from altitudes of 120m. and below, thus excluding all the high-mountain observations. And then, those remaining 83 observations give a mean value of horizontal refraction of 31.0' +/- 4.9'. This is a considerable reduction in scatter, which I surmise comes about for two reasons. First, because there's now much less variation in the additional length of light path, after skimming the horizon. And second, because nearly all the light path is now over ocean, with little of its length over land, with its more turbulent atmosphere. There is an additional point to be made, for what it's worth, though I don't wish to overstate it. A large part of that scatter is the result of a single discordant observation, at 40m. altitude on Hawaii, which produced a refraction of 67'. It's a dangerous business excluding data for no other reason than that it seems out of line, especially when investigating scatter. If we chose to exclude it, then the remaining 82 observations would provide a mean refraction of 30.5' +/- 2.9', a big reduction in the scatter. Not that I am suggesting we should do that. But it shows what an uncertain business it is, trying to estimate scatter. And interestingly enough, it corresponds rather well with what Greg Rudzinski wrote, back in [4628], as follows- "Perform normal sight reduction and expect 6 minutes of arc accuracy under normal weather conditions." (and to which I objected). So, in the end, and with Bill Noyce's help, we seem to have got some useful information from our scrutiny of that paper, in exposing some serious flaws, and in correcting our (well, my) overestimate of refraction errors at the horizon, at sea. Where did it all start? "40South" asked- "Supposing one was in a small boat with an accurate timepiece and the necessary tables, how accurate could you determine your longitude by observing the rising or setting of the sun or any other celestial body? " We seem to have progressed well past that point, but thanks to 40South for triggering us off. George. contact George Huxtable at george@huxtable.u-net.com or at +44 1865 820222 (from UK, 01865 820222) or at 1 Sandy Lane, Southmoor, Abingdon, Oxon OX13 5HX, UK. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Navigation List archive: www.fer3.com/arc To post, email NavList@fer3.com To , email NavList-@fer3.com -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---