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Re: Ships and boats and barks
From: George Huxtable
Date: 2010 Feb 20, 08:32 -0000
From: George Huxtable
Date: 2010 Feb 20, 08:32 -0000
Irv Haworth wrote: "I may be olde fashioned but Ships carry boats. No offense ,but it grates the nerves when these terms are inter-changed." I hail, originally, from Liverpool, a maritime city if ever there was one (well, it was, then...). And a rather large fraction of the population, uncluding four of my five grandparents, worked "on the boats". These were not fishing boats, as you might first think. They were the passenger liners, transatlatic and further afield, which made up such a large proportion of Liverpool's trade with the World. In Liverpool, "the boats" meant just that one thing: the liner trade. Somehow, the merchant cargo vessels, of which were many, were ships, not boats. They didn't employ nearly so many locals, carrying their own crews, from all over. But "the boats" gave employment to many thousands of Liverpudlians, mostly domestic and catering staff rather than actual mariners. I don't know whether other ports in Britain used the word "boats" in that way. It may be related to "Liverpool humour", which was well-known in those days, one aspect of which was the belittling, by slighting reference, of the things that were actually most revered. George. contact George Huxtable, at george@hux.me.uk or at +44 1865 820222 (from UK, 01865 820222) or at 1 Sandy Lane, Southmoor, Abingdon, Oxon OX13 5HX, UK.