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At 11:38 05/01/2009, you wrote:
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>
>Hello,
>
>I am the author of the book on the Star of Bethlehem mentioned by Marcel
>Tschudin.
>
>Marcel Tschudin wrote:
> > After
> > studying various texts a person came to the conclusion that this star
> > has likely been Venus in the morning-sky at the moment when it changed
> > its movement from retrograde to normal.
>
>This is not exactly my message. According to my theory, Jesus was born
>near the heliacal rising of Venus, which took place in late August 2 BCE
>(-1). At that time Venus was retrograde. In ancient terminology (e.g. with
>Ptolemy) the term for retrogradation was "to go before" (proegeisthai =
>proagein in NT). Babylonians had similar expression. This is why the Bible
>says that the star "went before" the magi. Note that no other planet
>(except sometimes Mercury) can be retrograde at its morning first. This is
>a strong indication that it must be Venus. And in the end of the
>Revelation Jesus says "I am ... the bright morning star". However, the
>magi arrived at Bethlehem a couple of days later when the star stood still.
>
>I date the birth of Jesus near the heliacal rising of Venus after a new
>moon, while the Sun is in Virgo. This fits the 1st September 2 BCE.
>

Hello Dieter. Thanks for taking the time to explain your theory to this
group, and also for putting the English translation of your book online.
That was good of you.

Having quickly browsed your book, and from your explanation above, it would
appear that you make no argument that any star "led" the Magi to Bethlehem.
You seem to argue that:

1) The Magi were astrologers.

2) That having seen or predicted an astronomical "conglomeration" which
would indicate the imminent birth of the King of the Jews, the Magi went to
Jerusalem as it was the major city of the Jews.

3) Having got to Jerusalem, the Magi were told that Jewish prophesy had the
King of the Jews being born in Bethlehem, so the Magi went to Bethlehem.

4) That Venus turned direct (from being retrograde) as the Magi reached
Bethlehem.

This last point may have been an additional significator that the Magi had
finally reached the place where the infant King of the Jews was, but
actually played no part in their "navigation" to Bethlehem. Indeed, in any
physical sense, they did not "follow" any star at all to reach Bethlehem.
Do I understand you correctly?

Geoffrey Kolbe


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