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From: Brendan Kinch
Date: 2012 Apr 13, 20:37 +0200
For those of you with a keen interest in submarines - just thought I would put this link up - as this sub is only about 20 minutes away from me at the moment. Not exactly what the thread has been about - but perhaps of interest!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isaac_Peral#The_Peral_submarine
Kinch.
From: navlist-bounce@fer3.com [mailto:navlist-bounce@fer3.com] On Behalf Of Gary LaPook
Sent: 13 April 2012 20:27
To: NavList@fer3.com
Subject: [NavList] Re: Submarines in museums or otherwise preserved.
Wow! Thanks frank, looks like I have my work cut out for me.
Hi Gary. As I described to a few people, visiting submarines has been mostly a good excuse to visit places, some strange but most boring, that I otherwise had never bothered to visit before. For example, I had never visited Pittsburgh, PA. The sub was only worth twenty minutes but I had a nice day in the city. There are many subs outside North America that are on display. Here's a list of the ones that can be visited in the USA and Canada (1) and a couple that I visited in the UK: Name, location, SS/SSN, site, class, built, retired, museum FORMER ACTIVE-DUTY USN SUBMARINES: FORMER USN SPECIAL SUBMARINES: NON USN SUBS IN NORTH AMERICA: BRITISH SUBS (only those I have visited): SMALL SUBS, NOT NORMALLY BOARDABLE: Of the subs on the list above, I have not yet visited Bowfin, Blueback, or Onondaga which are all on my "should see" list. There are many more submarines on display in museums around the world, including three US submarines, including the former USS Tang, which have been preserved in Turkey (after service in the Turkish Navy; Razorback which is now in Little Rock was in Turkish service until 2001!). Quite a few submarines, especially former Soviet subs, have gone on temporary display, sometimes in rather tawdry "amusement park" settings, and are then re-sited or scrapped if they fail to make money or for other reasons. I suspect that this is the case with the former Soviet sub that Alex mentioned on display near London. For a few years there was a former Soviet sub in Providence, RI which sank at its moorings in a storm (not a hurricane --just a lot of rain). It was later scrapped. This loss persuaded the USN that the local group trying to acquire the carrier USS Saratoga for a museum was not up to the task and Saratoga is now going to be scrapped or "reefed". Many of the subs in the list above are in rotten condition or otherwise not worth visiting. I would rate these as worth visiting, in rough order of the value of the visit: Nautilus, U-505, Cobia, Cod, Razorback, Pampanito, Holland One. Definitely NOT worth a trip (for the sub alone): Croaker, Cavalla, Lionfish, Becuna, Torsk, Requin, Clamagore (but even here, there are good reasons to visit the museums where Lionfish, Becuna, and Clamagore are on display). The others fall in the middle ground --worth a trip only if you're in the area. -FER
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