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Re: That darned old cocked hat
From: Hewitt Schlereth
Date: 2010 Dec 10, 23:11 -0400
From: Hewitt Schlereth
Date: 2010 Dec 10, 23:11 -0400
Vive le Voltaire! Hewitt On 12/10/10, Tom Sultwrote: > Based on our discussion placing the position at the center of the > cocked hat put you at good probability of not really being there... > and the smaller the cocked hat the less likely you are to be there. I > find this most entertaining. But despite the well reasoned arguments > I can find no better way to place the "dot" than to put it someplace > in the center-ish of the cocked hat by what ever method you find most > stimulating. Voltaire said of my profession "The Art of Medicine > Consists of Amusing the Patient While Nature Cures the Disease". I > suspect methods for placing the "dot" are "Entertaining the Navigator > While Waiting to Run Aground" ; ) > > Thomas A. Sult, MD > 3rd Opinion > 1415 First First St. South #5 > Willmar, MN 56201 > 320 235 2101 Office > www.3rdOpinion.us > tsult@mac.com > > > > > On Dec 10, 2010, at 4:22 PM, Gary LaPook wrote: > >> So we now have four geometric constructions (plus visual estimation >> making a total of 5 ways) to plot the fix inside the cocked hat. >> John Karl's probability diagram shows the probability of each of >> these points to be essentially equal although the Symmedian point my >> be ever so slightly more probable. So, what method should you use? I >> think the decision should be based on ease of construction. >> Obviously the easiest way is by eyeball and is the method I >> recommend. The next easiest construction is my method of determining >> the centroid by the "median" method. You only have to use dividers >> to halve one of the LOPs, lay a straight edge from the opposite >> corner to this point, and then use the dividers to mark the 2/3rds >> point along the straight edge. The standard way to determine the >> centroid is the text easiest, halve two of the LOPs and draw the two >> lines from the opposite angles to those points. More difficult is >> measuring the angles of two of the three corners, then dividing them >> in half, and then finally plotting those lines. ( You can also find >> the bisectors of the azimuths and plot them, you get the same point, >> if the spread of azimuths exceed 180 degrees.) The most difficult >> point to plot is the Symmedian point which requires that you first >> plot both the medians and bisectors, measure the angle between each >> of the lines in each set, and then draw in the additional lines >> shifted by the angle between the lines in each set to the opposite >> side of the bisector. Plotting the Symmedian point takes a lot more >> work with no significant in probability that it represents the >> actual position of the vessel. >> >> ( See my diagrams on the "three body fix" thread.) >> >> gl >> ---------------------------------------------------------------- >> NavList message boards and member settings: www.fer3.com/NavList >> Members may optionally receive posts by email. >> To cancel email delivery, send a message to NoMail[at]fer3.com >> ---------------------------------------------------------------- >> > > > > >