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    Re: Today's octant sights - Back Sights
    From: Brad Morris
    Date: 2010 Mar 18, 16:36 -0400

    Hi Frank

     

    My Heath Hezzanith has just that feature, a small squib of white embedded in the handle, for taking notes.  Yes, it is a metal sextant, from about 1920.  Same exact type that Worsley used, if you recall.  Hard to believe, really, but it is there none the less.  Of course, that Heath has every feature known to man. ;-)  Some useful, others….not so much.  It has those ridiculous binoculars, they attach to the sextant in the same place as a telescope.  Have fun swinging the arc with those!  My nose always gets caught and it hurts, ouch!!!! 

     

    The other question was regarding back sights in actual practice.  Bowditch talks to them as do others.  But as you have proven, that doesn’t resolve the question of practice at sea.  Have you ever encountered a back sight observation in your log traversal?  Or are they as rare as a snowflake in Tahiti?

     

    Best Regards

    Brad

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    From: navlist-bounce@fer3.com [mailto:navlist-bounce@fer3.com] On Behalf Of Frank Reed
    Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 4:22 PM
    To: NavList@fer3.com
    Subject: [NavList] Re: Today's octant sights - Back Sights

     

    Brad, you wrote:
    "It does seem technically possible and the existence of octants with a back sight feature confirms that (why add a feature that cannot ever be used)."

    The answer to this question is... drum roll please... "marketing". :-) People will pay money for what they can be convinced they need, not that they ever get around to using it! But mostly I would say that it's design inertia. It seems like every octant has that little chip of ivory on the back that was used as their version of a "post-it note" --a little spot where you could record sight data. But I've never seen a sextant with anything even remotely similar (I'm sure that some existed, just in very small numbers). And nearly every octant I've looked at up close has a substantial knob on the back so that the horizon mirror could be rotated to null out the index error. Sextants have various small screws or tiny knobs that might just barely be adjusted by hand but never with the intent of easy adjustment. Index error was to be measured, not nulled in sextants. Some of this is just evidence of the different original functions of the instruments. Sextants were developed *specifically* for shooting lunars with several design details that we retain today that are only there because they originally made sense for lunars. But a lot of it really has to be attributed to design inertia. Octant design stabilized with that ivory chip on the back. The back sight option was dropped somewhat before that stabilization.

    And no, my octant can't do back sights unfortunately...

    -FER

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