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    Re: Why Not To Teach Running Fixes
    From: Peter Hakel
    Date: 2009 Dec 13, 18:58 -0800
    OK, that makes things clearer for me.

    I think that your question could be best answered by NavList members who, unlike me, have extensive knowledge of history of navigation.  Perhaps in their studies of old logs they have come across a real-life and successful application of a running fix.  Furthermore, not so long ago we debated the distortion of a noon-curve due to declination change and N/S motion of the vessel. I remember some postings where a connection with the running fix procedure was mentioned.

    I believe that rules similar to natural selection also apply in science and technology.  The one-body fix technique is not to be found in the literature because it has been tried and shown to be impractical.  Conversely, my guess is that the running fix is included in the literature after all these years because it has proven its worth in the past.

    Bowditch has a section on the running fix where LOPs are given by bearing lines and NAVAIDs.  The running fix technique is also used to shift LOPs from multiple star sight to a common instant of time, thus accounting for the time elapsed between sextant shots.  It seems to me that it is a good thing that it is still taught.  Bill Buckley in his instruction video (made in the 1970s, I believe) states that 90% of celestial navigation on small boats is done with running fixes.


    Peter Hakel



    From: John Karl <jhkarl@att.net>
    To: NavList <navlist@fer3.com>
    Sent: Sun, December 13, 2009 6:15:07 PM
    Subject: [NavList 11133] Re: Why Not To Teach Running Fixes

    Peter,

    No, I can't agree with your post #11122.  A navigator always knows
    something about where he is.  The running fix ALWAYs assumes the
    navigator knows the perpendicular distance between LOP1 and the
    advanced LOP1 EXACTLY, and knows ABSOLUTELY NOTHING of his position
    parallel to LOP1's orientation.  Under what situation does this
    occur??


    Any newly acquired LOP, even of any orientation, should always improve
    position knowledge of lesser accuracy.

    JK

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