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    Re: accurate sextant
    From: James Whitson
    Date: 2008 Feb 23, 15:26 -0500
    Fred-In an attempt to take the heat off of you from "polite society", I pose the question of how many people does it take to screw in the russian telescope? Any guesses-Old Sailor

    > From: Fred@acf.org
    > Subject: [NavList 4548] Re: accurate sextant
    > Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 17:59:19 -0500
    > To: NavList@fer3.com
    >
    >
    > Sorry Alex. I couldn't resist saying something. The Russian
    > telescope is probably better than the upright prism binocs. I was
    > going to make some joke with Russians as the butt of the joke about
    > the inverting aspect, but thought it might offend someone, so said,
    > essentially, nothing instead. Kind of like Polish jokes, such as,
    > 'How many Poles does it take to screw in a lightbulb? Answer,
    > 'Three, one to hold the lightbulb and two to turn the ladder.' But
    > such jokes are no longer allowed, unfortunately, in polite society.
    >
    > Fred
    >
    > On Feb 22, 2008, at 2:56 PM, Alexandre E Eremenko wrote:
    >
    > >
    > >
    > > Dear Fred,
    > >
    > > On Fri, 22 Feb 2008, Fred Hebard wrote:
    > >
    > >> I'm mostly resisting any national comparison jokes here.
    > >
    > > I did not understand this remark. Would you explain,
    > > perhaps off-the-list?
    > >
    > > Alex.
    > >
    > >> On Feb 22, 2008, at 10:38 AM, Alexandre E Eremenko wrote:
    > >>> George,
    > >>>
    > >>>> What struck me was its rather strange
    > >>>> (to me) construction, in that the
    > >>>> index arm swings on the "wrong" side of the frame;
    > >>>
    > >>> This is not exactly so. The arm moves INSIDE the frame.
    > >>> If you look carefully you see that the frame has
    > >>> a complicated shape which allows the arm to move
    > >>> inside. The handle is attached to the
    > >>> "other part of the frame", behind
    > >>> the arm. Of course you can call the part of the
    > >>> frame behind the arm a bridge, but it is an integral
    > >>> part of the frame. The purpose of this
    > >>> arrangement is to protect the arm.
    > >>>
    > >>> Freiberger has similar construction of the frame.
    > >>> In general Freiberger looks very similar, except
    > >>> it does not have the inverting scope and does not
    > >>> have the scale magnifier/illumination device.
    > >>>
    > >>>> I ask those familiar with this
    > >>>> instrument whether they see any
    > >>>> advantage in the straight-through, inverting,
    > >>>> 6x telescope, compared with an
    > >>>> equivalent, non-inverting, prismatic ocular
    > >>>> of similar power and
    > >>>> light-grasp? Presumably,
    > >>>> the prismatic would be a bit heavier; are there
    > >>>> other differences?
    > >>>
    > >>> It is very much lighter, and lets more light through.
    > >>> In this telescope, the light passes through only two lenses.
    > >>> All astronomical telescopes-refractors are made this way,
    > >>> and the reason is to minimize the loss of light.
    > >>> So the designers of this telescope surely had the
    > >>> same reason.
    > >>> In addition, this is the only "modern" sextant telescope
    > >>> that has wires. Wires are handy for many adjustments,
    > >>> and make it easier to hold the object in the center of
    > >>> the field.
    > >>>
    > >>> In the old days (until approx. 1940-s) many sextants had
    > >>> inverting scopes with wires. However the SNO scope has
    > >>> a substantial advantage in comparison with these old
    > >>> scopes: much larger field of view, and much larger
    > >>> diameter of the objective lens. Again this lets more
    > >>> light through.
    > >>>
    > >>> Alex.
    > >>>
    > >>>
    > >>>
    > >>>>
    > >>
    > >>
    > >>
    > >>>
    > >
    > >
    > > >
    >
    >
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