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Re: automatic celestial navigation
From: Frank Reed
Date: 2007 Dec 07, 05:08 -0500
From: Frank Reed
Date: 2007 Dec 07, 05:08 -0500
Gary, you wrote: "O.K. but there are only limited periods during the day when satellites are visible, shortly before sunrise and shortly after sunset, say about an hour each. During sunlight you can't see them against the bright sky (or the stars either) and after the sun is well down the satellite is in the shadow of the earth and is not illuminated." Yes, it's definitely a night-time project! But the time period during which satellites are visible can be suprisingly long. It's typically longer than nautical twilight, sometimes much longer, so this is a more leisurely activity than the usual twilight round of star sights. And you wrote: "Here is a website that will predict when the space station of the space shuttle will be visible in your area. http://spaceflight1.nasa.gov/realdata/sightings/ Here is a sample of its output for Simi Valley California. Notice that there are only three oportunities to see the interational space station in the next two weeks for a total viewing time of only 5 minutes. " Yeah, but Gary, that's just those TWO satellites. As I noted in my earlier message, the ISS would be a bad choice for this method of navigation because it maneuvers frequently. You can't count on calculating ephemerides for it unless you have access to very recent orbital elements. Additionally it's orbit is decaying rapidly --which is the main reason it has to maneuver frequently. They have to give it a good shove every few weeks to counteract the effects of atmospheric drag. The station is in an unusually low orbit for a satellite which is also why its passes over any specific observaing location are rather rare. As for the space shuttle, those pass predictions on the NASA site today are probably garbage. The shuttle's maneuvers are frequently re-scheduled during its missions, and as you probably saw in the news today, the present mission, a critical one to launch the ESA Columbus laboratory, has just been delayed a day. So forget about those manned satellites. Luckily for this game, there aren't many others that maneuver. To get a better idea how many satellite passes are available for this navigation game, I recommend using a German web site: www.heavens-above.com which is much more comprehensive than the NASA site. It was honed to a fine state of near-perfection some seven to eight years ago. Select your location (there's a list) and then ask it to display all satellite passes with magnitudes brighter than 4.5 (easily visible from a dark site). For most twilights at most locations on the Earth, there are more than a dozen passes. The biggest problem that you may discover is that a majority are on roughly polar orbits which means that the LOPs from two different satellite observations will tend to cross at rather acute angles. Even so, you can usually find a pair that cross at a wider angle. Try experimenting with different locations on the Earth. For an interesting case, check for visible satellite's today up in the high Arctic, say around 80N, 90W. How many times during a given twelve hour period can you see satellites? Quite a few, huh!? It's interesting to note that they're mostly the same satellites repeating their appearances after a hundred minutes or so (that's just the orbital period, of course, but you don't often see this simple repeating in lower latitudes because the observer has rotated out from under the satellite's path in 100 minutes). At your location (well, I assume you mentioned Simi Valley because it's your location), you should be able to see at least a half-dozen satellites with binoculars every evening and every morning. Light pollution will take its toll. Just to reiterate the point of all of this, it's a method of simple, visual position-finding that requires no instruments except possibly binoculars. It should not be difficult to acheive one nautical mile accuracy from any location on Earth that has a dark night sky. It does require a computing device and specialized software. And I suppose I should add that this is very nearly the SAME method as the method of finding longitude and latitude by measuring lunar distances (at known GMT) which I was talking about last fall. We're accurately observing the position of a nearby object relative to distant objects and getting lines of position from the observations. In both cases, no horizon is necessary, no altitudes need to be measured. In both cases, we need a computer (or an awful lot of paperwork). In the case of the Moon, since it is some 230,000 miles away, we need a good sextant to fix its exact location among the stars. In the case of Low Earth Orbit satellites, a purely visual check is all that's needed. If you feel like throwing some technology at the problem, imagine observing those satellite passes with a night vision videocamera. If you could fix the satellite's position against the background stars to the nearest half a minute of arc, then the resulting LOP is accurate to better than a tenth of a nautical mile (assuming a nearly straight overhead pass of a satellite 500 nautical miles high... 0.07n.m.=(0.5'/3438)*500n.m.). -FER --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ To post to this group, send email to NavList@fer3.com To , send email to NavList-@fer3.com -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---