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Re: eLoran and electronic compasses
From: Nicol�s de Hilster
Date: 2008 Apr 27, 20:10 +0200
From: Nicol�s de Hilster
Date: 2008 Apr 27, 20:10 +0200
Please check http://jproc.ca/hyperbolic/loran_c_eloran.html At the bottom of that page you will find a link to a dissertation in which, on page 122, the LF H-field antenna is described. This loop antenna is not an omni-directional antenna and, when used in a dual loop configuration, can be used as a heading device. On page 168 in fig 5-49 a graph is shown that, after calibration, compass errors are smaller than 0.8 degrees. On page 175 it reads "With only factory calibration, the Loran-derived compass heading had an offset of 2.8�, a standard deviation of 3.9�, and a 95% error of 8.3� with respect to the Vector Pro GPS compass. After field-calibration, these errors reduced to an offset of -0.1�, a standard deviation of 0.5�, and a 95% heading error of 1.1�...". The eLoran heading was checked against a Vector Pro GPS heading device (which is a zero-baseline RTK heading device) with an accuracy of 0.5 degrees. Nicol�s Lu Abel wrote: > A bit off topic, but ... > > A friend sent me an article (perhaps more accurately described as a > publicity release) about eLoran that claims its signal can be used in > electronic compasses. The precise sentence in the article is: > "Moreover, eLORAN can do things GNSS cannot, such as acting as a static > compass." > > First of all, the statement about GPS is inaccurate, since one can buy > electronic compasses that work even when they are static by comparing > the phase differences between the receipt of GPS signals at two or three > antennas separated by a foot or less. > > What makes me very curious, though, is how an eLoran-based electronic > compass would work. > > "GPS compasses" work by observing the phase differences between signals > received at two or three different receivers, these phase differences > give the direction to the satellite and by knowing its location in space > it's simple math from there to calculate the direction of true north. > But the phase difference method works only because GPS signals have such > a short wavelength that there are considerable phase differences between > signals received at antennas even a short distance apart. > > I have not been able to find any information on how eLoran-based > electronic compasses would work. Loran signals are very > long-wavelength signals (25,000 times the wavelength of GPS signals), so > measuring their phase differences in any reasonably small electronic > compass setup would seem impractical. > > Maybe measure the bearing to each of the transmitters? But I have a > hard time believing that could be done accurately enough to create an > electronic compass with sub-one-degree accuracy. > > Can anyone point me to an explanation, or is the sentence I quoted above > simply hyperbole from an eLoran supporter? > > Thanks > > Lu Abel > > > > > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Navigation List archive: www.fer3.com/arc To post, email NavList@fer3.com To , email NavList-@fer3.com -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---