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Re: leap seconds a navigational hazard, says expert
From: Richard M Pisko
Date: 2003 Aug 10, 20:08 -0600
From: Richard M Pisko
Date: 2003 Aug 10, 20:08 -0600
On Sat, 9 Aug 2003 22:52:32 -0700, Brooke Clarke wrote: > >I think you can get 15 seconds accuracy at any time the Sun is shining. >There are a number of heliochronometers that do it. But it's not a >static sundial, that's to say you need to turn dials, etc. > I like that one with the gnomon made of two plates curved and bent ... almost meeting, but with a gap such that a light bar automatically intersects with the equatorial ring to solve the equation of time. One of the links on your site which I will have to visit again. >In the >extreme case you could use a surveyors transit/theodolite to shoot the >az and el of the Sun and using data for the current year know exactly >the time to about a second. See: >http://www.cadastral.com/ > From that site, a while ago, I downloaded "The Revenge of the Altitude Sight". I believe the point is made that the time and longitude need not be known exactly to determine the Azimuth of a point by using the Sun if you take both Az and V readings each shot. This was common with the old open circle vernier transits that were being made obsolescent in the 1950s. Using the now standard hour angle sight requires the Az of the Sun and exact time, as well as a good guess for a latitude and longitude; but can be used around local noon where the altitude sight could not. Accuracy is increased because of less concern for refraction, and also the optical theodolites read to the nearest second of arc. And, the altitude need not be made tangent to the sun's upper or lower limb at the same time as the Azimuth is tangent to the trailing limb. OK, you can work backwards with both methods, but only the hour angle one will work around noon ... if you set up accurately on a line of known azimuth and have an ephemeris handy for that year. I think a sundial is more practical, looks better, and can be used by any person close enough to see the shadow or light spot. I like your site and links ... maybe because they seem to agree with me? :-) Many thanks, -- Richard ...