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Re: shortest twilight problem...
From: Marcel Tschudin
Date: 2010 Jun 30, 15:25 +0300
From: Marcel Tschudin
Date: 2010 Jun 30, 15:25 +0300
@ Joel Silverberg Just in case this subject is still of interest to you. I still imagine - as I mentioned earlier - that this problem originates from calculating the Muslim prayer times. In the early days of this religion general rules were established to help for those religious needs. Later it was realised that these rules were not sufficiently correct and required a refinement. Regarding the twilight between sunset/sunrise and begin/end of night (sun at -17 to -19 deg) seems to be relevant not only for the two prayers which I mentioned earlier (evening and night) but also for the morning prayer. These prayers have apparently to be done in the corresponding time-spans, preferably at their beginning. I could now imagine that the time-span for the twilight was first considered to be a fixed time interval. The original problem may then have arisen from realising that this time interval is not so constant and thus requires some corrective adjustment. If this is really the origin of this problem you may eventually find more on it in the publications of this Gentlemen: http://web.uni-frankfurt.de/fb13/ign/ign2/people/kinge.html === Now to those of you who still try to imagine the possible results of some special cases. To answer those the initial question on the shortest twilight is not sufficiently precise. It actually requires to distinguish between two cases: Duration of twilight ... (1) ... with sun being "somewhere" between horizon (sunset/sunrise) and -18 deg altitude (2) ... between sunset/sunrise and sun actually passing -18 deg altitude The attached graph shows the duration of twilight for a location at 65 deg North. With the first definition for the duration of twilight the yellow points are valid, for the second definition not. The two definitions lead thus to two different results. (Note: George may be happy to see that his first wrong answer (solstice) happen to be correct in this particular case.) At the North Pole - and in a corresponding way also at the South Pole - there are only two values for the full year, one for the Winter/Spring-time and the other for the Autumn/Winter-time. The shorter of the two is at the North Pole the Winter/Spring one. During this time the earth is nearer to the sun and thus moving faster in its orbit. Marcel