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    Re: Noon sight for longitude
    From: Henry Halboth
    Date: 2008 Jul 10, 20:46 -0700

    I too apologize for my overly caustic response, however, must state plainly my 
    exception to the tendency so evident for name calling and somewhat less than 
    polite innuendo that occurs on this List, including that which is so 
    frequently exhibited by some of our more distinguished members. Most of us 
    have no idea as to what the pedigree of the other correspondents may be, and 
    that is perhaps as it should be to engender a sense of equality.
    Unfortunately, almost if not all methods employed in celestial navigation have 
    limitations attached to there use - you name it, and there is most probably 
    some restriction to the universality of its application, and the 
    determination of Longitude at Noon by equal altitudes is no exception. It is, 
    however, the responsibility of the navigator to adapt the means to the 
    necessities of any particular situation, and to properly assess the reliance 
    to be vested in the means employed. There were in the past many times when 
    the roughest approximation of position was better than nothing at all. The 
    presence of a SatNav receiver, or what have you, does not induce the same 
    urgency of need.
    It is probably possible to make a case to the effect that any discussions 
    regarding celestial navigation are a waste of time in this electronic era, 
    but the members of this List appear to relish in hashing over methods perhaps 
    long forgotten by the mainstream - else why all the talk of Lunars. Our 
    deliberations, I think, are relatively harmless and certainly not 
    earthshaking - so long as they are conducted in peace and harmony.
    --- On Thu, 7/10/08, James N Wilson  wrote:
    > From: James N Wilson 
    > Subject: [NavList 5782] Re: Noon sight for longitude
    > To: NavList@fer3.com
    > Date: Thursday, July 10, 2008, 8:16 PM
    > George:
    > Thanks for coming to my defense. You stated my objections
    > precisely. But
    > I still must apologize for my "attack dog"
    > approach. I'm expressing my
    > frustration with popular articles which don't tell the
    > complete story..
    > I've been trying to get my point across for over twenty
    > years, and
    > haven't made much progress. In that old time frame, I
    > criticized an
    > almost identical article in Cruising World, and was rebuked
    > with a note
    > to the effect that if I had something of interest to their
    > readers, I
    > should submit it. About then, I gave up. But not
    > completely. I worked in
    > that same time period to get the Power Squadron to revise
    > their material
    > which blatantly quoted the myth. Alas, the best that I
    > achieved was that
    > they deleted it. Later, in my short tenure as a member of
    > their Offshore
    > Navigation Committee, I did manage to get the point across.
    > I was asked
    > to prepare a paragraph on the problem for inclusion in
    > their Navigation
    > course. I condensed my twelve page Navigation article to a
    > paragraph,
    > basically the equation for the difference between the
    > measured time of
    > maximum altitude and LAN, with a short lead-in and the
    > nomenclature. I
    > don't know if it was included in the course material. I
    > wasn't welcome on
    > that committee, in that I think that I was too critical. I
    > did last for
    > two years. I was invited because in teaching their Junior
    > Navigation
    > course, I noted that they didn't have a form for
    > reducing their meridian
    > transit sights. So, I created one, and it was immediately
    > welcomed, with
    > a bit of mastication, and is now a part of the course
    > material. So, I did
    > achieve something.
    > Thanks again, and I again apologize for expressing my
    > frustration. I
    > joined this group in the hope that it might help me get my
    > point across.
    > I'm encouraged.
    > Jim Wilson
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