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Re: recommendation for slide rule ?
From: Lu Abel
Date: 2009 May 21, 15:23 -0700
From: Lu Abel
Date: 2009 May 21, 15:23 -0700
Greg:
Given that the K&E 4080 is an ordinary 10" slide rule, I'm afraid you'll be disappointed. These standard engineer's slide rules were good for two digits of accuracy. Even assuming you could carry that much accuracy through the standard trig formulae for Hc, you'd still be looking at an error of almost a degree! Not very good if one is trying for minute accuracy.
Lu Abel
Greg Rudzinski wrote:
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Given that the K&E 4080 is an ordinary 10" slide rule, I'm afraid you'll be disappointed. These standard engineer's slide rules were good for two digits of accuracy. Even assuming you could carry that much accuracy through the standard trig formulae for Hc, you'd still be looking at an error of almost a degree! Not very good if one is trying for minute accuracy.
Lu Abel
Greg Rudzinski wrote:
Gary, Won a K&E 4080-3 on ebay and anxiously awaiting to receive it. I'm hoping that it is in good condition as described but you can never tell until the item is in hand. It will be interesting to compare solution times between the slide rule and pub 249. One advantage of the slide rule over pub.249 is that the dead reckoning position can be used as the assumed position. Thanks for your advice. Greg On May 20, 8:51 pm, glap...@PACBELL.NET wrote:Here is a link where you can download the manual for the K&E 4080http://www.mccoys-kecatalogs.com/KEManuals/4080-3_1948/4080-3_1948.htm gl On May 20, 8:10 pm, Gary LaPook <glap...@pacbell.net> wrote:No advantage with two sliderules.Don't be intimidated by all the scales on these rules, most are LogLog scales that have no connection with celnav calculations. The important scales are simply the D, S, and ST scale for small angles.glGreg Rudzinski wrote:Gary,It does appear as you have illustrated that the K&E 4080 has multiple advantages over the Pickett. Are there benefits to working with two slide rules together so that products can be transfered from one to the other and back again? If so then what types pair best?GregOn May 20, 4:05 pm, Gary LaPook <glap...@pacbell.net> wrote:I like the K&E better than the Pickett because the S scale is adjacent to the D scale and the markings are more legible. Compare the yellow Pickett with the white K&E and also see my previous post.glGreg Rudzinski wrote:Gary,You have succeeded in getting me interested in slide rules. I have never owned or used one but after some internet research I see that they have been to the moon and back. Now I will have to get one! So far I am leaning toward the purchase of a Pickett N3-ES which is of aluminum construction. The slide rule could very well be the pinnacle of low tech achievement. Right there with the mechanical chronometer.GregOn May 17, 6:21 pm, glap...@PACBELL.NET wrote:I like the K&E 4080 because the trig scales are marked in degrees and minutes so use the same units as other methods of celnav. The 4081 is almost identical except the scales are marked in degrees and tenths of degrees. Take your pick. PS. they are things of beauty.glOn May 16, 10:16 am, corallina <corall...@gmail.com> wrote:Awhile back some pdf files were posted containing a bygrave type computer. I believe it was the original poster did a comparison using his keuffel and esser 4080 slide rule against the bygrave and perhaps a calculator.Now I am interested in trying a slide rule. It would seem that ebay has the most to offer and I have checked prices for the one mentioned above. At this time I am only interested in using the slide rule for sight reduction.Being rather ignorant of slide rules I would appreciate if there are other models that the list would recommend giving me a few more options before purchase.Thank you.IMGP5885.JPG 187KViewDownloadIMGP5887.JPG 186KViewDownloadIMGP5888.JPG 187KViewDownloadIMGP5897.JPG 186KViewDownload
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