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Well, there is one simple way to confirm or refute whether two-part messages are
part of the IRBS problem.

Post a message, using two-part (text plus MIME) encoding. Then repost the
message as plain text.

See if the IRBS archive picks up the plain text but shuns the other one.

And, CC: yourself directly with the messages, to verify the content of each.

Some email clients will send "formatted" email using methods other than MIME, so
that's not definitive, but it is a start.

I'll kick that off here and now, posting this message as "plain text" with a
copy to follow in "rich" formatted text.



----- Original Message -----
From: "George Huxtable" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 12:36 PM
Subject: Re: Missing messages


> Peter Fogg wrote-
>
>
> |I wonder if some or all of the messages that have apparently gone
> missing
> | from the Irbs archive failed to reach that destination because they
> were not
> | sent in the desired format, eg; as Plain text.
> |
> | One from me entitled " Advancing a position circle" sent Sunday
> never got
> | there; was not in Plain Text. Another with the same subject sent
> about an
> | hour later, in Plain Text, did.
>
> =========================
>
> It chimes in with this message, which I sent to Nav-l on 12 June, as
> follows-
>
> ========
> An interesting posting in the thread  "Position from crossing two
> circles : was [NAV-L] Reality check"
>
> was sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 7:48 AM, by Andres Ruiz.
>
> It included, within the text of the message I received, a diagram of a
> sphere with two intersecting circles drawn on it. That in itself is
> unusual for Nav-l messages, which are usually sent, as requested, in
> text-only mode; but I am not opening that question. Presumably the
> message must have been sent in HTML; but if a plain-text version
> accompanied it, perhaps I would be unaware.
>
> What interests me more is that following a reply to that message,
> Frank Reed wrote, on that same day,
>
> "I didn't receive this message  and there's no evidence of it in the
> irbs
> archive that I can find --possibly it  was a private message-- but I
> would be
> interested in receiving a copy. Could  someone forward a copy to me?
> Thanks."
>
> This seems to me to be worth following-up, for any light it may throw
> on the question of missing messages, which seem to be still plaguing
> the list.
>
> I looked into responding to Frank's request, but when I tried to
> forward a copy, it had that diagram stripped out, perhaps because my
> own emailer program is set to send in plain-text only. So I gave up on
> that. Later, Frank informed us that a copy had been forwarded to him
> from another member, so all was well. I wonder if that forwarded copy
> included the original diagram.
>
> On request, Andres resent his original posting on 9 June. In fact,
> there were 3 resends on that day, so altogether 4 such postings were
> sent altogether. There may possibly have been more, of course, but
> those were what reached me. All included that diagram. There were, in
> addition, shorter postings from him around that time on that same
> topic, which do not concern me.
>
> I wonder how many (if any) copies of that original Andes Ruiz posting
> arrived in Frank's mailbox, not counting any forwarded copies that
> arrived from elsewhere. Did they include that diagram? From those that
> keep an eye on the i-DEADLINK-com archive, how many copies of Andres'
> original posting appeared? Did they include the diagram? Did other
> members fail to receive all four copies of that message, with its
> diagram? If less than four, how many?
>
> Only by collating such evidence do we have any hope of discovering
> what's going wrong.
>
> ===========================
>
> There has been no response to that posting, so far, and it may be, of
> course, that Frank has failed to get that message also. But no doubt
> he has had a lot of other stuff of greater urgency on his mind, with
> the Mystic meeting (of which I have heard good reports). I hope that
> my questions will be followed up, as will Peter's. How many, I wonder,
> failed to receive his posting which showed a photo of a globe with
> circle drawn on it, sent 18 June at 01:24, under threadname "Advancing
> a position circle"?
>
> George.
>
> contact George Huxtable at george@huxtable.u-net.com
> or at +44 1865 820222 (from UK, 01865 820222)
> or at 1 Sandy Lane, Southmoor, Abingdon, Oxon OX13 5HX, UK.
>
>
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