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Re: 1901 May, 22 Lunar example by French Navy Captain Arago
From: Paul Hirose
Date: 2010 Feb 06, 16:46 -0800
From: Paul Hirose
Date: 2010 Feb 06, 16:46 -0800
Antoine Couette wrote:
> Your "reworked" results are
> probably the most accurate ones achievable given the Ephemeris sources
> you are using. The only remaining significant improvement would be
> taking in account the Limb irregular shape (see F.E.R.'s comments just
> hereafter).
I can make one small improvement. The Astronomical Almanac eclipse
predictions have adjustments of +.5" in the Moon's longitude and -.25"
in latitude to correct for the difference between its center of mass and
center of figure. My program has an option to apply that adjustment, but
I normally disable it to make the output compatible with other programs.
With the option enabled, the occultation is 1.7 seconds earlier. In
Paris astronomical time, the results are:
10:53:17.3 Arago
10:52:59.3 Hirose (no corrections)
10:52:57.6 Hirose (with corrections)
> You are right, "les hauteurs varies" mean "Unrefracted altitudes", i.e.
> as they would be observed from Earth Center and without any Atmosphere
> (no refraction).
However, I thought "les hauteurs vraies" were the *topocentric*
unrefracted altitudes of the centers. With that assumption I got:
1901-05-22T22:20:33.83 UT1
1901-05-22T22:20:32.93 Terrestrial Time
-0.907 seconds delta T
+47°49'33.2" - 79°37'22.8" north lat, east lon
The new, correct solution is:
1901-05-22T22:20:13.81 UT1
1901-05-22T22:20:12.91 Terrestrial Time
-0.907 seconds delta T
+48°23'09.9" - 79°28'22.2" north lat, east lon
So Paris astronomical time = 10:29:35 by my computation. Arago's value
is 12 seconds later: 10:29:47. His estimated position is N48°23'
W079°25', only a little different from my second computation.
Unfortunately, the wrong time in my previous message spoiled your
chronometer rate computation. So I'll do it again.
March 2 occultation:
6:57:28 M (hack watch)
10:53:17 Tmp (my value)
---------
-3:55:49 M-Tmp (hack watch error)
1:17:58 A-M (Arago's value)
-3:55:49 M-Tmp (from above)
---------
-2:37:51 A-Tmp (chron. error)
May 22 lunar distance:
6:34:42 M (hack watch)
10:29:35 Tmp (my value)
---------
-3:54:53 M-Tmp (hack watch error)
1:17:14 A-M (Arago's value)
-3:54:53 M-Tmp (from above)
---------
-2:37:39 A-Tmp (chron. error)
clock rates:
-3:55:49 M-Tmp (May 22)
-3:54:53 M-Tmp (March 2)
---------
-:56
Hack watch lost .69 s/day.
-2:37:39 A-Tmp (May 22)
-2:37:51 A-Tmp (March 2)
---------
+:12
Chronometer gained .14 s/day.
> And a last comment: while earlier running this example on my own, I was
> a bit surprised at the "inaccuracy" of Arago's results, mainly due to
> his Lunar coordinates surprisingly and significantly inaccurate by
> to-day standards.
It's interesting that the JPL ephemerides use no observations before the
20th century (I think the oldest are from 1911).
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