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Averaging lunars: was Lunars with SNO-T
From: Alexandre Eremenko
Date: 2004 Oct 30, 15:40 -0500
From: Alexandre Eremenko
Date: 2004 Oct 30, 15:40 -0500
Der George, Your message of Fri Oct 29 2004 - 13:21:42 EDT and your previous message on the subject seem to challenge me (and other interested participants) to start a little research project on "Non-linearity and averaging in Lunar distances". I agree with you that my "second lunar observation series" posted here was probably on the boundary of what should be permitted to average. It could be even "beyond this boundary", and I was just lucky to obtain improved results by the averaging. (Well, this is the part of my common sense philosophy: Averaging USUALLY improves the results. If your COMMON SENSE says "do average" then DO. I don't want this to be challenged to extort "quantitative statements":-) I just cannot make them. The sole purpose of my "balcony navigation" is to get some experience. That's why I reduce all results, then average and reduce the average results, then compare... After many trilas like that, I will deduce some EXPERIENCE, for example, under what circumstances averaging helps, and when it is dangerous. (So far, all my experience show that it helps). Then (I hope) I will have some experience in Sea in "small craft" conditions and maybe in "large craft conditions" as well:-) But of course, one can try to make a complete mathematical theory of "non-linearity in Lunars", similar to what I tried to do in "non-linearity of Altitudes". What makes me reluctant to start such attempts is a) I somewhat distrust "theories" when applied to the real world, in any case, it is only repeated EXPERIMENTS can can convince us that such-and-such theory is really applicable. And I believe other people on this list feel the same. b) Herbert Prinz (who apparently knows what he says, and apparently has some experience) in his message which triggered this whole "Averaging" discussion said that "Averaging is OK for Lunars". c) He (Herbert Prinz), in the same message, also gave references to the literature where this question of Averaging and non-linearity was thoroughly investigated. It is true, I could never find his reply on my message asking for PRECISE references, but I think it is only because of my poor copmmand of the search engine on this list. So, if this question was carefully investigated, and the results were published, why don't wee just look at these papers instead of inventing a bicycle again? Alex.