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    Re: Aviation Bubble Sextant
    From: Dave Harwood
    Date: 2010 Sep 11, 14:57 +0000
    Gary,
     
    Thanks for the outstanding resources!  I'm out of town for a few weeks but I'll study up on what you've provided and post my results for critique as soon as I return home.
     
    Dave
     
    > Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 09:35:05 -0700
    > From: glapook@pacbell.net
    > To: NavList@fer3.com
    > Subject: [NavList] Re: Aviation Bubble Sextant
    >
    > You can start here:
    >
    > http://www.oceannavigator.com/content/celestial-air
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > If Celstaire still has any Polhemus computers you should get one because
    > it makes plotting the fix in flight easy.
    >
    > http://www.fer3.com/arc/m2.aspx?i=105832&y=200807
    >
    > This shows the process:
    >
    > http://www.fer3.com/arc/m2.aspx?i=105846&y=200807
    >
    > http://www.fer3.com/arc/m2.aspx?i=105847&y=200807
    >
    > Here are links on how you do celnav in flight:
    >
    > http://www.fer3.com/arc/m2.aspx?i=105924&y=200807
    >
    > http://www.fer3.com/arc/m2.aspx?i=105929&y=200807
    >
    > http://www.fer3.com/arc/m2.aspx?i=105937&y=200807
    >
    > http://www.fer3.com/arc/m2.aspx?i=105938&y=200807
    >
    > http://www.fer3.com/arc/m2.aspx?i=105939&y=200807
    >
    > http://www.fer3.com/arc/m2.aspx?i=105940&y=200807
    >
    > http://www.fer3.com/arc/m2.aspx?i=105940&y=200807
    >
    >
    > You can read an example of a complete flight on my website at:
    >
    > https://sites.google.com/site/fredienoonan/other-flight-navigation-information/in-flight-celestial-navigation
    >
    > To determine the index error of an A-10 you must take a number of sights
    > from a known position and compare the altitudes with the computed
    > altitudes and find the average error and standard deviation. Hold the
    > sextant steady on a tripod or other rest. Take ten sights moving the sun
    > down into the center of the bubble and then take ten more moving the sun
    > up into the bubble. Calculate the index error separately for each
    > series. If there is a difference between the index error for the two
    > series then you have determined the amount of backlash in the mechanism,
    > there will probably be some. Then, since in flight you will be moving
    > the sun up and down to keep it in the bubble, average the two index
    > errors to find the I.E. to use in flight.
    >
    > Find your location either with a GPS or Google Earth to use for
    > computing the Hc. An easy way to do this calculation from you position
    > is to use the Navy website at:
    >
    > http://www.usno.navy.mil/USNO/astronomical-applications/data-services/cel-nav-data
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > You can download a copy of the current Air Force navigation manual here:
    > http://www.e-publishing.af.mil/shared/media/epubs/AFPAM11-216.pdf
    >
    > unfortunately it is lite on celnav.
    >
    >
    > http://www.fer3.com/arc/m2.aspx?i=105839&y=200807
    >
    > gl
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > On 9/10/2010 6:41 AM, Dave Harwood wrote:
    > >
    > > Frank, I'll use this moment as my opportunity to step out of the
    > > shadows and become a NavList contributor. First, some personal info:
    > > I'm active duty Air Force currently stationed in Okinawa. Several
    > > years ago I took an interest in Cel Nav after reading South by Sir
    > > Ernest Shackleton. After reading a few books on the subject, countless
    > > Google searches and a lot of time spent at the beach, I've taught
    > > myself to consistently plot a fix within 4-5 miles of my known
    > > position with a Davis Mark 15. I've recently completed the ASA 101 and
    > > 103 (104 scheduled for Oct) sailing courses and have put some of my
    > > skills to use. Up to this point I've simply been an observer of
    > > NavList. Not because I intend to simply plunder its resources without
    > > giving something in return, but because I didn't believe I could
    > > contribute much to the conversation at my level. I've come a long way
    > > and I'm ready to jump in!
    > > Enough about me already, I'll get to the point:
    > > My interest has now taken me into the realm of air navigation. I
    > > purchased an A-10A online and, not so surprisingly, found it to be
    > > seized. With the help of Bill Morris's manual I've successfully
    > > restored this unit and I would like to learn more about its use. I do
    > > not intend to hijack this thread, however, in their absence I'll keep
    > > it going.
    > > Could someone detail its proper use and the process involved in an
    > > airborne fix? I have a copy of the Air Almanac (although a 2011) and
    > > plenty of opportunities to use it while airborne.
    > > Also, how should I go about establishing its accuracy (e.g. index error)?
    > > Thanks for any help that can be offered,
    > > Dave Harwood
    > >
    > >
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