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You said:  Indeed, I took that Moon/bubble photo on the night of Oct14/15.  It is possible that Saturn was very near the Moon that night but I still would not have seen it if it were leading the Moon, even by a little bit, given the proximity to the trees.  I was out doing by 14000 steps (not to try and one-up you - I just regularly do 7 miles in the hope I'll be ready for the Fan Dance in Wales (Brecon Beacons) one day) three nights ago and I saw Saturn peeking between the leaves well ahead of the Moon.

Yes, unlike the stars, the Moon and Planets all go round at different rates, which can lead to some interesting views ranging from all lined up at ten degrees or so behind one another to spread out all over the place.  That’s what prompted my question about the medieval monks on the night shift.  I’ve still not found my copy of Seb Falk’s ‘The Light Ages’, but I see you can now get it from ‘Audible’.  That should make good bedtime reading, except with most ‘Audible’ I invariably fall asleep hand have to wind back next day.  The other problem with ‘Audible is that you don’t get the diagrams.  You really need the book available as well.
 
I’ve done the Pen Y Fan circuit a few times, mainly solo.  I was at school in South Wales in years 11,12, and 13 from 1959, so the first time must have been with a group from school when I was 16.  The longest I’ve ever walked in one go were three or four solo Lyke Wakes of 40 miles, and my wife and I have done most of the original UK long distance walks in short stages.  The problem these days is everyone’s at it.  I don’t see how people can really appreciate the view and the silence in a long procession, but it’s a great way of getting kids started.  I’m afraid these days 3-4 miles without a rest is more than enough for me.  DaveP