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Re: Buoys
From: Lu Abel
Date: 1999 Jul 12, 12:15 PM
From: Lu Abel
Date: 1999 Jul 12, 12:15 PM
I'll certainly defer to a Coastie with direct experience on a buoy tender, but my impression is that buoys are on chains about 50% longer than the water depth (scope = 1.5:1). I learned this in an interesting way. In the early 1980s, Loran C was the high tech electronic navigation system and, just as GPS prices have dropped in the past five years, back then Loran prices were dropping out of the stratosphere. So in 1983 I installed one on my boat. Loran receivers didn't initially calculate latitude and longitude (remember, this is 1980 and the microprocessor chip has barely been invented). Instead they displayed "Time Differences" (TDs) between received signals. TDs are lines of position. If you look on a 1:80:000 or smaller scale coastal chart even today you'll see a fine spiderweb of TDs with designators like "9960-X-25440" printed on them. One was supposed to take the TDs displayed on one's Loran, plot them on the chart as LOPs, and cross two to get a fix. Problem was (and still is, even as Loran fades from the scene) that the TDs plotted on charts were based on some theoretical calculations which totally ignored physical phenomena which distorted the position of the TDs. So plotted Loran positions could be off by 1/4 mile or more. But even though Loran did a not-so-great job of giving one a position, it had fantastic repeatability. That is, if one was at a point (say a buoy), noted its TDs, and then later went back to those exact TDs, one would be within 50 feet or so of the point. So whenever I ventured someplace new in clear weather, I kept the Loran on and noted the TDs of important marks as I went. (Thanks for staying with me so far, I'm almost back to buoys) At the time I was sailing out of Naragansett Bay (where our friend is headed -- good luck and it's sure a beautiful place!). Block Island, which is about 15 miles SW of Naragansett Bay, is a great destination for a weekend. To get there, one sails WSW from the mouth of Naragansett Bay until one clears a reef which extends fairly far north of the island, then turns south for the harbor on the west side of the island. The end of the reef is marked by a big sea buoy, "1BI." (If anyone has a copy of the training chart 1210TR, you can find it just on the left hand edge of the chart). Clearing 1BI properly is really important, and given the way fog can sprout up instantly in that part of New England getting 1BI's Loran TDs was one of my first priorities. As I ran out to Block Island several times that first summer of Loran ownership I always passed close by the bouy and noted its coordinates. Surprise -- they were different each time! Not by a lot, but by a few hundredths, where each hundreth corresponded to 50 feet of position. It looked like either the buoy was jumping around by about 100 yards or so, or there was something wrong with my set. But none of my other my waypoints were jumping around. Then I looked at the chart and realized that 1BI is in close to 150 feet of water. What I was seeing was simply the buoy swinging around on its chain!! A review of the TDs I had accumulated showed the radius of the circle to be about 150 feet, which would correspond to the 1.5:1 scope I mentioned at the beginning. With this experience as warning, I noted the TD variations in other deep-water buoys. Invariably, the circle seemed to have a radius about the same as the water depth. The moral (besides that buoys have 1.5:1 scope :-) is that when one sees weird navigation data (whether celestial or electronic) is to THINK. Lu Abel At 08:08 AM 7/9/99 -0700, you wrote: >On Thu, 8 Jul 1999, Ferrantelli wrote: > >> Also, as a >> coast guard quartermaster speciallizing in aids to navigation positioning I >> would be intereseted in comments (on or off list) relating to buoys, fixed >> aids, GPS, DGPS, LORAN -- what's good, what's bad--- etc. > >How much does the position of a buoy vary from its charted position as a >result of tides and currents? Presumably there is some slack in the anchor >chain, and how much slack would determine how far the buoy could move in >any direction. I suppose it would depend on the depth of the water and the >tidal range and perhaps the strength of the current in the area. What is a >typical radius of the resulting circle of position? Ten yards? Fifty >yards? > >Chuck Taylor >SEASCAPE GB 32-2 >Everett, WA, USA >