NavList:
A Community Devoted to the Preservation and Practice of Celestial Navigation and Other Methods of Traditional Wayfinding
Re: Celestial navigation: easier basic principle?
From: Bruce Cutting
Date: 2020 Jan 26, 12:10 -0700
From: Bruce Cutting
Date: 2020 Jan 26, 12:10 -0700
Why is it unlikely that any bright star will be within an arc minute of zenith? Quoting Peter Monta: > Hi, > > > ... an easier method to locate longitude and latitude by having our >> sightings match this knowledge via time and sighting with any of the >> luminaries when at Zenith let's say >> > > If you know the time and can see a star at the zenith, then you can indeed > determine both your latitude and your longitude from this single event. > > But there are practical difficulties. The zenith is not marked on the sky; > you really only have the sea horizon as a reference (or spirit leveling if > on land). If the star is the same angular distance to each part of the > horizon, then it is indeed at the zenith, but this takes time to verify, > and meanwhile the star is moving. Also, it is unlikely that any bright > star will be within an arcminute or so of the zenith, so the available > navigational events are severely restricted unless you can deal with very > dim stars. > > So it's better to work with several of the things you can observe easily, > namely, angular distances of various bright stars to the horizon, observed > separately over the course of a few minutes. A star not at the zenith > gives only a "circle of position", not a position directly (as you don't > know the star's azimuth to any accuracy), so you need several of these > observations. > > But, as you say, computation and instrumentation are moving targets, and > it's always interesting to see if they can map onto the classical > navigation problems in new ways. Sketch out a complete version of your > zenith scheme and try it under the real sky. (Using a camera, you can see > dim stars very near the zenith.) This kind of playing around can provide, > I think, some good intuition about how the classical techniques have been > shaped---maybe better than reading a textbook treatment of the techniques > already fully formed. > > Cheers, > Peter >