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--- George Huxtable  wrote:

> But of course the interest should be in responses from anyone who 
> CAN'T read that symbol properly, and I strongly request that, if 
> that applies to any list member, he should say so promptly.

Agreed, which is what I asked in the original post (but so far I
haven't heard any negatives, so I guess everyone (or at least everyone
who posts) is using "modern" software that can read the special
characters).

> It may have been me that was resonsible for starting the trend to
> using "deg", from my experience of difficulties with a very elderly 
> Mac (1992 vintage), which has since been supplanted by a more modern 
> PC laptop.

I figured there was probably a good reason for it - using "deg" works
(and I have no objection to continuing it if that's the consensus of
the group), but it dawned on me that using the � symbol on the list
would probably be easier to for everyone to read (and would also better
reflect what most of us are probably using on our own celnav work
anyway).

> However, my attempts at using the "character map" haven''t been
> simple. No problem in finding the character, or copying it, but 
> when pasted into Outlook Express it's always in a larger font, 
> which then sticks to all subsequent typing. I can't see how to 
> adjust the font size created by Character Map, or that being put 
> together in Outlook Express. Can anyone kindly assist here?

On my end I don't have a problem with the font size changing (though OE
sometimes insists on changing everything imported from Character Map to
Arial font for some reason).

Either way, it's easy enough to fix - right above the window where you
type the e-mail, there should be a menu bar with font selections, size,
options for bold/Italic/underline, color, etc. You can highlight the
imported character (click the mouse and drag the cursor over it) and
then select whatever characteristics (font/size/etc.) you want for it.
That should also correct the problem with subsequent typing being
formatted like the imported character.

Although for me it's easier to just ignore those formatting "glitches"
when they occur until I'm done with the e-mail, then highlight the
entire text and apply the format changes once (saves having to do it
each time if you want to make multiple changes).

--
GregR


 
> GregR asked-
> 
> I'm wondering if everyone on the list can see the special character
> for the 
> degree symbol on their end - if so, I think that would be a lot
> easier to 
> use than the various workarounds (this format - i.e. 180deg 00' -
> seems to 
> be the favorite flavor du jour).
> 
> ================
> 
> Yes, I have no problem in reading that degree symbol, or those,
> created in 
> different ways, by others. But of course the interest should be in
> responses 
> from anyone who CAN'T read that symbol properly, and I strongly
> request 
> that, if that applies to any list member, he should say so promptly.
> If 
> there are no such responses, I will happily switch away from using
> "deg" to 
> using "�". (did that come across as a degree symbol?).
> 
> It may have been me that was resonsible for starting the trend to
> using 
> "deg", from my experience of difficulties with a very elderly Mac
> (1992 
> vintage), which has since been supplanted by a more modern PC laptop.
> 
> However, my attempts at using the "character map" haven''t been
> simple. No 
> problem in finding the character, or copying it, but when pasted into
> 
> Outlook Express it's always in a larger font, which then sticks to
> all 
> subsequent typing. I can't see how to adjust the font size created by
> 
> Character Map, or that being put together in Outlook Express. Can
> anyone 
> kindly assist here?
> 
> The simplest method seems to be that proposed by Gary, who wrote-
> 
> "To make the degree symbol hold down the ALT key while typing 167 on
> the 
> numeric keypad (not the top row of numbers.) If you do not have a
> separate 
> numeric keypad engage NUMLOCK and use the keys on the keyboard that 
> substitute for a numeric keybard (on my Fusitsu laptop I engage
> NUMLOCK then 
> do ALT JO7.)"
> 
> My cheapo Dell laptop (probably many members use something similar)
> doesn't 
> have a separate keypad, but does have a key marked "Num Lk", which
> when 
> pressed turns on or off a green light. But that seems to be all it
> does. 
> With that light lit, pressing "j " doesn't create the numeral "1" as
> I would 
> expect, but the usual j. And so, unsurprisingly, Gary's method won't
> work 
> for me. Can anyone guess what's wrong? Is it a fault, or perhaps more
> 
> likely, is there some hidden software control that's disabling it? Or
> am I 
> misunderstanding?
> 
> George.
> 
> contact George Huxtable at george@huxtable.u-net.com
> or at +44 1865 820222 (from UK, 01865 820222)
> or at 1 Sandy Lane, Southmoor, Abingdon, Oxon OX13 5HX, UK.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > 
> 


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