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Re: Comments on the units
From: Clyde Nickerson
Date: 2006 Apr 7, 18:08 -0300
From: Clyde Nickerson
Date: 2006 Apr 7, 18:08 -0300
For Alex, Yes there is something similar in the West....Canadian Gunners use the mil. 17.7 mils to the degree , if my memory of Arty training 50 years ago is correct. Clyde ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alexandre E Eremenko"To: Sent: Friday, April 07, 2006 3:07 PM Subject: Comments on the units > Perhaps this does not fit exactly in > the list scope but I will comment a bit about this funny subject > of the units. > > On Fri, 7 Apr 2006, George Huxtable wrote: > > > | We think of the metric system being firmly established in the world, but > > | only a part of it -- measurement of distance and temperature -- is > > | universal. > > I am surprised with this statement. > If you subtract the US, from the rest of the world, > the metric system if firmly established in EVERYTHING > except time/angular measures. > > Of course there is nothing good or natural about base 10 at all. > Bases 8 and 12 are much more convenient for many purposes. > I know of one attempt of transfer to base 8 > (Charles XII of Sweden tried to introduce it as a general standard. > But he died young (and defeated)). > > > Grads (100, not 90, to the right-angle) still appear on some French maps. > > In Soviet artillery, at least when I served for a brief period in 1975, > the angle measurement unit was called simply "one division". > There were 6000 divisions in the full circle. > The reason for this was that 6 is a reasonable approximation to 2pi. > Thus an object of size 1 meter is seen at the distance of 1 kilometer > under the angle of 1 division, approximately. > So if you see a tank whose height is 3 meters under the angle > of 2 divisions, the distance is (3/2) times 1000=1500 meters, > very simple for quick calculation in your head:-) > But the precision instruments were also graded in "divisions" > to avoid confusion. > > Confusion however occured in the interaction with > our aviation where the angles were naturally measured in degrees... > or with the navy where the distances were measured in cables > and miles but the angles still in degrees:-) > > Grades were also used somewhere in the military but I don't remember > where:-) > > But speaking seriously, probably one reason why the system based > on 60 still holds is that 6 is close to 2pi. Closer than 10 anyway:-) > > Is there anything similar to the Soviet "division" in the West? > > Alex.