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Re: Dava Sobel
From: Frank Reed CT
Date: 2006 Apr 30, 06:47 EDT
From: Frank Reed CT
Date: 2006 Apr 30, 06:47 EDT
Alex Eremenko, you wrote: " "the ship's capitan learned his longitude in the comfort of his cabin, by comparing his pocket watch to a constant clock that told him the correct time at home port". No other explanation is given in a book which is called "Longitude" and is written for "broad audience"! I could not believe my eyes... and this is was a bestseller... are we really living in "Dark age"?" First of all, that isn't true. I had to look it up to see. You are perhaps a victim of a cursory reading... The sentence you've quoted is a TEASER at the very end of one chapter intended to draw the reader on into the rest of the book. In fact, the essential principle of comparing local time with absolute time is explained in the opening chapter of the book --and ya know, it's not rocket science --it's a fairy simple concept. Sobel does an admirable job explaining the overall topic. No, there's no spherical trigonometry and she doesn't go into the details of taking time sights, for example, but this diminishes the value of the book only slightly and only for that small segment of the market that can follow such discussions. As for this book being evidence of a "Dark Age".... Come on. That's absurd. There are millions and millions of people who read this book, and they learned a lot from it. I have personally met many people who can explain the basic concept of lunar distances simply because they read the book! The topic of longitude and celestial navigation generally is known far more widely than it has been in decades, and it's primarily because of Sobel's fine little book. As for Shovell's shipwreck, there are only a few sources. W.E. May in his 'History of Marine Navigation' wrote that he had examined in detail all of the surviving logbooks from the fleet, and the positions are not that far off in general. He sees the real problem as a charting failure. The Scillies had been charted some ten to fifteen miles too far north for a long time, leaving Shovell with the mistaken impression that he had more room to maneuver. In the era, the wreck of the fleet was popularly blamed on a failure to know longitude, but that may have been more of an attention-grabbing move on the part of the people who had a vested interest in solving the longitude problem (and there were many such people). As for "Longitude", it makes no mention of the latitude factor or other issues that might have caused the shipwrecks and follows the historical theory --blaming it on longitude foremost, and Shovell's arrogance secondarily. But in "The Illustrated Longitude", you'll find that Andrewes's caption notes that the incident probably had as much to do with errors in latitude as errors in longitude. Naturally: If you need to sail towards Portsmouth from west of Ushant, you might set a course around 060 degrees true. An error in either latitude or longitude will get you in trouble. But if you are confident you're in the latitude of Ushant, and you are not confident of your longitude, then you might pick a course closer to north for a first leg. If it then turns out that your latitude was really wrong instead, you're in big trouble. Be aware also that Sobel did not invent the idea that this tragedy was a result of the failure to know longitude (and primarily longitude) --that popular theory lasted for more than a century and has been widely told. What was really lacking in 1707 was scientific dead reckoning navigation. The tools that might have saved Shovell's fleet were not available until almost 200 years later. Imagine how different things might have been (not in time for Shovell & co., of course) if the Board of Longitude had spent some of its vast monies on some fast system for taking soundings "on the fly", and maybe also a little money for tools and techniques for improving the accuracy of compasses. But that's not how astronomers and mathematicians think... -FER 42.0N 87.7W, or 41.4N 72.1W. www.HistoricalAtlas.com/lunars