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    Re: Equinox time?
    From: Paul Hirose
    Date: 2024 Sep 22, 16:36 -0700

    > *From: *Robert H. van Gent
    > *Date: *2024 Sep 21, 21:32 -0700
    >
    > The autumnal equinox, defined as the moment when the apparent geocentric
    > longitude of the Sun equals 180 degrees, will occur nearly 32s earlier,
    > at 12h 43m 40.82s.
    
    My solstice and equinox page says the 2024 September equinox occurred at
    12:43:40 UTC. The JPL Horizons web calculator agrees. I have not tried
    for precision beyond 1 second of time.
    
    http://sofajpl.com/solstice
    
    https://ssd.jpl.nasa.gov/horizons/app.html#/
    
    Ecliptic latitude of the Sun is +0.60″, so the discrepancy between
    declination zero and ecliptic longitude 180 is greater than average.
    
    IERS Bulletin A predicts UT1-UTC will increase from +0.06 to +0.10
    during the next 365 days. In other words, Earth will rotate a little
    faster than the atomic second. If correct, we will go another year
    without a leap second.
    
    Note my long term table says the 2025 March equinox is 09:01:29 UTC
    (after you subtract 37 s to convert from TAI to UTC). If you round to
    the nearest minute, the correct direction to round may be too close to
    call. The precise time depends on your ephemeris and precession /
    nutation model. I think plus or minus two seconds of time is a
    reasonable discrepancy.
    
    The 2026 June solstice is even worse. Unless we get a leap second,
    TAI-UTC will remain 37 s, and the solstice will fall exactly in the
    middle of a UTC minute.
    
    A few years ago Capitaine and Soffel ("On the definition and use of the
    ecliptic in modern astronomy") noted, "It should be clear that the use
    of an ecliptic will not be required for providing a future
    semi-analytical precession-nutation solution... While the equinox (and
    the tropical year) will always have some value for the seasons, the
    organisation of everyday life and the calendar, the geometric,
    kinematical and dynamical uses of ecliptic in modern astronomy are now
    limited to uses for continuity with historical references and parameters."
    
    http://arxiv.org/abs/1501.05534
    
    So, future precession / nutation models may not provide a route to
    ecliptical coordinates. But in that case, legacy models will enable us
    to calculate solstices and equinoxes with all necessary accuracy.
    
    --
    Paul Hirose
    sofajpl.com
    
    

       
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