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Re: Explanation by Mr. Stark needed
From: Doug Royer
Date: 2003 Jun 12, 12:09 -0700
From: Doug Royer
Date: 2003 Jun 12, 12:09 -0700
Bruce,thank you for your time and explaination.I appreciate all the info and advice I can get on any subject from the listmembers.There are so many differant ways to look at and/or do things.I wish to digest the information and proceedures pertaining to this Lunar subject before I ask anymore questions.I hope to try this new (to me)proceedure over the next few days and try to form my own opinion as to the diffaculty or ease of completeing it.Personally I am more experianced and comfortable takeing altitudes than measureing angles across the sky from contorted bodily positions. As for the thread on towing a log,sure,it's a stretch to consider it a legal tow.However,as explained by the inspector,in the narrowest interputation of the law it can be considered as binding because there is no physical size limit to a towed object.Someone more versed in the law would have to make that final decision and the tower would have to decide if the hassle was worth it. George,without meaning to be argumenative,check the Colregs as there are proscribed signals for a tow < 200 m in lenght. Jared,I'm still waiting for your responce to my inquiry reguarding the double 4 sight round example. -----Original Message----- From: Bruce Stark [mailto:Stark4677@AOL.COM] Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 10:12 To: NAVIGATION-L@LISTSERV.WEBKAHUNA.COM Subject: Re: Explanation by Mr. Stark needed Doug, Please don't hold me to my statement: ". . . the moon being east or west of you doesn't mean you are west or east of her." I was thinking DUE east and west. In other words, a body's position angle is hardly ever the reciprocal of the azimuth. This is easily demonstrated with a piece of string on a globe. The ideal situation for getting local time or longitude is when a body is due east or west. That's when it is perfectly in line with the motion you want to measure, the earth's rotation. But to get GMT from the moon you have to measure the moon's motion along her orbit. The earth's rotation has nothing to do with it. Years ago, I picked a time from the Almanac and set up a hypothetical situation where a boat was expecting to be entering the English Channel in a few days. Night was falling and weather making up, but the single-handed navigator got a good cut with two stars, and the altitude of the moon. His LOP lunar put the boat well out in the Atlantic. Reassured, he went below. Trouble was, he was just west of the Scilly Islands. Although the moon was within 5? of due west, and all three altitudes more accurate than could be expected, the observation was a disaster. The moon's orbital motion, as I recall, was out of line with her altitude by 79?. Bruce