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    Re: Eye problems and IE, IC
    From: Bill B
    Date: 2006 Jul 14, 22:35 -0500

    Here we go, the last tests until the weather and moon cooperate.  I hope.
    Sun-screen costs for Cel Nav have just exceeded sun block costs for sailing.

    Prescription and glasses are probably 6-7 years old.  At the time I
    purchased the glasses, it was my first pair since high school (vision
    corrected itself to 20/20 when I had it checked at 40).  I recall at the
    time I picked them up they noted there was a lot of (astigmatism?)
    correction, so if that bothered me bring them back.  I did have some dialed
    out for my prescription sunglasses, but have gotten use to it although it
    was a shock to the system initially.

    Even with the corrections, if I look critically a circle it will be slightly
    elongated along the Y axis with my left eye, the opposite with my right eye.

    CONCLUSION

    The eyeglasses appear to null out most of the vertical vs horizontal shift
    within the man/machine ability to measure.  They also appear to bring the
    sun IE closer to 0 to 0.1' off the arc linear IE (.7' to 1.7' over linear in
    vertical position, and 1.5' to 2.5' over linear in horizontal position,
    which is the recommended position for sun IE checks to minimize the
    refraction George so correctly points out.  All sun IE checks cannot be made
    with the sun at 70+d elevation.)

    An obvious question:  If the glasses help that much, why not use them?

    1  They help to some extent, but do not totally eliminate the problem, so
    personal error corrections are still called for.

    2.  The eye relief (distance the scope can be held from the eye and still
    give a good view) of the scope is marginal with my glasses and facial
    structure.  Other scopes I have tested are not useable with eyeglasses.  The
    scope must be pressed against the glasses and the lens pressured in towards
    the eye.

    3.  I would have to fabricate a rubber device to keep the scope from
    scratching the glass lens as the standard rubber eyecup cannot be used due
    to eye relief.

    4.  Even in static conditions (sitting in a chair) it is difficult to align
    the scope, eye and glasses.  It would be almost unworkable for me in rough
    seas.  Since a personal correction is called for in either case (bare eye or
    with eyeglasses) I would prefer to use the bare eye and correct
    mathematically.

    Which brings us back to the initial question, how do I develop a personal
    error constant--err--starting point?

    My eyes are flawed.  As Red might suggest, they should be taken out back and
    shot.  A waste of time IMHO; it seems they are already shot ;-)

    Bill

    HORIZONTAL and VERTICAL SHIFT WITH EYE GLASSES
    Astra IIB, Star Scope

    13 July, 2006
    Left eye 16:25 to 17:01 EDT
    Hc 53d to 6d

    Key: 
    VON   (vertical on the arc)
    VOF   (vertical off the arc)
    HUDON (horizontal on the arc)
    HUDOF (horizontal of the arc)
    HU     handle up
    HD     handle down
    sigma (standard deviation)


    LEFT EYE
    Vertical   Vertical   Horiz     Horiz
    On Arc     Off arc    On Arc    Off Arc

    31.8       28.6       31.5 HU   28.3 HU
    31.8       29.6       31.6 HU   28.8 HU
    31.6       28.8       31.8 HU   28.4 HU
    31.4       28.7       31.6 HU   28.6 HU
    31.6       29.8       31.4 HU   28.6 HU
    31.7       29.8       31.6 HU   28.8 HU
    ----       ----       31.6 HD   28.7 HD
    ----       ----       31.6 HD   28.4 HD
    ----       ----       31.7 HD   29.0 HD
    ----       ----       31.7 HD   28.9 HD
    ----       ----       31.8 HD   28.7 HD
    ----       ----       31.6 HD   28.8 HD

    Mean    Standard Deviation
    VON       31.65' 0.15'
    VOF       28.72' 0.098'
    60-VOF    31.28'  -----
    HUDON     31.625' 0.11'
    HUDOF     28.67'  0.21'
    60-HUDOF  31.33'  -----

    TARGET 4SD:     63.2'
    Vertical 4SD:   62.93
    Horizontal 4SD: 62.96
    Vertical IE:    0.077' On
    Horizontal IE:  0.15' On


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