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FW:On teaching seamanship
From: Doug Royer
Date: 2004 Oct 14, 11:21 -0700
From: Doug Royer
Date: 2004 Oct 14, 11:21 -0700
Lisa,Jim and Carl, Thanks for responding and allowing me to view your opinions and experiances on this subject. My major thrust in my origonal post was even if one is taught something in class if one doesn't use it on more then in an emergency situation or once or twice a year in practical sailing situations the ability to use that basic knowledge is eroded towards worthlessness because one has to think about what one's doing before and during the situation.Even when a cadet is graduated from the academy with all his/her lessons passed they are still only "entry level" candidates and must be given practical lessons to round out their education. I really do understand that rec boaters are in it to have fun or gain experiance.They really don't require the in depth training professionals do.But to allow someone to buy and operate any vessel without some basic training at least in the art of plotting and collision avoidance(rules of the road) is foolhearty. I find the serious sailers(blowboat operators of all sizes)to be much more competant in seamanship then are motor(stinkpot)vessel operators.At least out here on the west coast of the states. Brings to mind a situation from last year.We(297 ft cargo vessel) were entering San Deigo harbor.San Deigo has a narrow channel and is classified as such.A Navy warship is exiting the harbor the same time we are entering it.We are hugging the starboard side of the channel as the warship is hugging the port side.We are travelling at around 7 kts.We are overtaking a 45 ft yatch(who has no business in the channel)and give the proper sound signals to overtake on his port side.He doesn't respond to repeated signals(nor responds to hailing over various marine radio channels).In fact now all the people on board are on the stern area waving hello and the operator slows his vessel allowing us to get even closer.No room to manouver.I order turns for 1/8 reverse speed. To end the story a collision was avoided(no thanks to the yatchy).But the operator of that yatch had no clue as to the basics of the rules of manouver. I'm heartened to hear that Lisa and Jim conduct drills and evolutions on a scheduled basis on their private vessels.Good on both of you. Jim, your Power Squadron courses sound like the ticket.I hope you have many new boaters attending classes. Carl,thanks for the insight into what you teach. I'm at a point in my life where I don't wish to go to sea for extended periods anymore.A couple of days here and a couple of days there to keep my currentcy up to date is all I want. I am now teaching the STCW courses to cadets and proffesional people who need the certs to meet C.G. requirements for documentation.I find I actually really enjoy teaching the younger people these skills.And as a bonus I find the STCW courses taught to be some of the most important,practical and real life situation lessons offered to these people before they get out into the real world. [NOTE for fer3.com/arc: This message has been modified slightly from the original message due to a technical issue. No change in content.]