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Re: Fw: Re: I and C pages of the NA
From: Gary LaPook
Date: 2014 Sep 27, 01:59 -0700
From: Gary LaPook <NoReply_LaPook@fer3.com>
To: garylapook@pacbell.net
Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2014 3:11 AM
Subject: [NavList] Fw: Re: I and C pages of the NA
From: Dale Lichtblau <NoReply_Lichtblau@fer3.com>
To: garylapook---.net
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 9:56 PM
Subject: [NavList] Re: I and C pages of the NA
From: Gary LaPook
Date: 2014 Sep 27, 01:59 -0700
So for, I have bee talking about the right side of the I&C table the "corrections" side. The left side is the "increments" side and it merely allows for the regular movement of the sun, aries, and the moon and is also a multiplication table. For example, look at the sun column for zero minutes. The sun moves 1/4 of a minute of GHA per second. Look at zero minutes and 4 seconds and you will see that the increment for the sun is one minute of GHA. The table has multiplied that 1/4 minute time four to equal one full minute of GHA. The sun moves 4 minutes of GHA per minute of time. Look at the one minute entry and you will see that the increment is 4 minutes of GHA. The sun moves 15 degrees per hour. Look at 59 minutes and 60 seconds (one full hour) and you will see the increment is
15 degrees.
gl
From: Gary LaPook <NoReply_LaPook@fer3.com>
To: garylapook@pacbell.net
Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2014 3:11 AM
Subject: [NavList] Fw: Re: I and C pages of the NA
And the correction for 59 minutes and 60 seconds is actually for 59 minutes and 30 seconds, 3570/3600 times "v."
gl
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From: Gary LaPook <garylapook---.net>
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Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2014 2:36 AM
Subject: Re: [NavList] Re: I and C pages of the NA
From: Gary LaPook <garylapook---.net>
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Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2014 2:36 AM
Subject: Re: [NavList] Re: I and C pages of the NA
Look at the "v" correction values for the moon which are tabulated for each hour since they change so rapidly.
Here is an example for you Look for in the "v" and "d' increments for 59 minutes and 60 seconds, which is the same as one hour, and you will see that correction is equal to the value of "v". This is because the "v" (the change per hour)
multiplied by one hour equal "v." Now look at 30 minutes and zero seconds (one-half hour) and you will see that the correction is one-half of the "v" value because the "v" value is being multiplied by 0.5, one-half, for half an hour. (You might note that they correction might be off by 0.1 and this is because the correction is for the whole minute so is based on the proportion that the minute + 30 seconds is to 60 minutes. So, for 30 minutes the correction is based on 1830 seconds/3600 seconds times the "v" value.)
gl
From: Dale Lichtblau <NoReply_Lichtblau@fer3.com>
To: garylapook---.net
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 9:56 PM
Subject: [NavList] Re: I and C pages of the NA
Thanks Bill (and Gary and Greg).
It's actually the d factor for the sun's daily/hourly
declination value that has been puzzling me.
I think I got the equation of time (explaining the d values of 0.0 and 1.0 around the solstices and equinoxes?), but I'm still not clear as to how the correction values have been calculated and tabularized. And exactly how are the I&C tables a multiplication table? An example or two...maybe?
One can enter the table with a value ranging from 0.0' to 18.0' (why this range?), particularly in light of the fact that the largest v value I can find is for Venus at 4.1 back in January.
Thanks.
