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    Re: "Improved" sextants
    From: Lu Abel
    Date: 2006 Jul 3, 23:48 -0500

    Greg R. wrote:
    > Lu Abel wrote:
    >
    >
    >>5. Throw in a little bit of electronic knowledge about the body
    >>sighted, and with this and the above we go straight away from ho to
    >>Hs,
    >
    >
    > Not to detract from your otherwise fine list of improvements, but I
    > think you probably mean "straight away from Hs to Ho" there?  :-)

    Sorry, I somewhere my subscripts started going wrong.  I did mean Hs to Ho.


    > And (assuming we were still going to use human sight-takers), I'd add a
    > request for a zoom lens on the telescope. Never figured out why nobody
    > has done that yet (that I'm aware of) - use the wide-angle setting to
    > get the object into the field of view, then zoom in as necessary for
    > that perfect horizon kiss.

    Works very well with my idea of stabilization!


    > The only other "flaw" I can find with your list would be the cost to
    > produce this next-generation sextant. Can you get all of that
    > technology out the door at the ~$500 price point for the current
    > mid-range professional sextants?

    We have to separate out R&D costs from manufacturing costs.  I expect
    the R&D cost for all this electronics (especially something like totally
    eliminating the optics) would be very expensive, but the actual
    manufacturing cost would be reasonably inexpensive.   Anybody know of a
    local university looking for an R&D project?

    Once R&D costs have been covered, the price of electronics drops sharply
    with demand (think of DVD players).  One startling example from the
    boating field is that a full-bore fishfinder (depth sounder with full
    surface-to-bottom echo display) is currently cheaper than a simple depth
    sounder that just displays the depth of the bottom.  Conservative
    boaters (and sailors) use the latter, many, many more fishermen want the
    former.  High volume = low cost.

    The startling low prices for GPS is far more due to demand from hikers,
    automobile navigation systems, aircraft, etc, etc than to us few boaters.

    So I rather suspect that this dream sextant would be unbelievably
    expensive.  But that wasn't a parameter of the question, just (as I
    understood it) what might have happened to the sextant if it hadn't been
    sidelined by Loran and later GPS.

    >
    > Also, don't forget that price will also buy several GPS units, but
    > we're only talking sextants here, right?...  ;-)

    No argument from me, that's the reality of supply and demand.  About a
    year ago I posed the question on this list "You have $1,000 to spend on
    navigation instruments (not including charts) for a transoceanic voyage,
    how would you spend it?"   A lot of traditionalists bought expensive
    sextants.  Some of us realists bought about 3 GPS units (one to use and
    the other two sealed in plastic bags), lots of batteries, and a Davis Mk
    15 plastic sextant as backup.

    BTW, I was reading through one of my electronics magazines and there was
    an announcement in it of a highly capable GPS chip (everything from the
    RF front end to the microprocessor that has to do a lot of hard work to
    convert satellite data into a position) for $5(!) in production
    quantities.  I'm not sure whether a separate microprocessor is needed
    for dealing with waypoints, routes, navigational displays like XTE, but
    to get raw GPS output for under $5 is just amazing!  It doesn't cost a
    heck of a lot more to add waypoints, pushbuttons, and a display.

    Lu Abel

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