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Re: Instumental error?
From: Bill B
Date: 2005 Apr 21, 01:34 -0500
From: Bill B
Date: 2005 Apr 21, 01:34 -0500
Alex >> Bill wrote: >> Could we located other stars in the the >> same separation range as the problem areas >> that might offer a different >> (easier) sextant position? > Alex responded: > I am always chosing the stars for this business in > convenient position. > Locating two good pairs at the SAME distance is > of course very hard. Or at least a labor of love ;-) > I also don't think that the scope is relevant. > What sort of deficiency in a scope can lead to > a systematic bias? I suppose, only collimation. > Collimation I checked, and in general, it can give only very small > error. As a practitioner of photographer, not a an optical engineer, I can only suggest possibilities; and cannot predict the degree they might affect observations to the extent you have observed. In a brief on-list exchange with a fellow photog, we lamented the quality of scopes in general as opposed to quality fixed-focal-length camera lenses. A couple suspects might be: Spherical distortion in the scope's optics. Chromatic aberration. Look at a quality prime (fixed focal length) camera lens. Along the focus/depth-of field scale there should be a red dot. That is the focus shift for infrared photography. The point being that even the color of the star (Taurus the Bull's eye) can shift the focus/image. If the focus is off, circles of confusion would make the body appear larger. Flair from the optics could also make the body appear larger. The always elusive erradiation. Mechanical possibilities: Could it be the bearing on the index arm? You would think this would creep up on you for separations close to those you are observing unless it/they have a small but pronounced flat spot. Index mirror off index arm rotational axis? I would guess that would be a nice smooth curve. Gears? You measure the same pair of stars for a given separation. You have done this pair many times, so eliminate the the worm gear worm for now (you have done many other observations, and a glitch in the worm gear would show up in other observations at the same minute reading). Trusting your ability, which I do, that leaves the acme thread of the arc gear. Even a slight burr could throw you off. Think about it. Our handheld instruments are measuring one tenth of 1/60th of 360. A fly's wing in the arc gear could be a big deal. So find something to measure that is a notch or two off on the arc gear where you get the abnormal results. If the results are similar, then you have a problem unrelated to the arc gear. If not, an off-spec gear tooth. So no need to throw out the baby with the bath water. Like my HO229 tables where you noticed a few blank pages, it is inconvenient, but if you are willing to wait four minutes, no big deal. Point being, as shrinks like to say, "If you continue to repeat the same behavior and expect different results, you're crazy." Put another way for Star Trek fans, Captain Kirk was the only academy student to win the Koribache (Koribache spelling?) Test. Once he realized it was a no-win exercise, he sneaked in and reprogrammed the computer--and won. Referencing Richard Feynman "Cargo Cult Science" again, eliminate variables to be sure you are measuring what you intended to measure. In this case it *may* be nothing more than a couple of errant arc gear teeth. Bill