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    Re: Jupiter and Venus
    From: Bill Ritchie
    Date: 2025 Aug 7, 14:45 -0700

    Robert, converting both to UT and DMS, you said that  

         SOLEX predicts 0° 51′ 37.7″ on 12 August at 06:39:00 UT.

         IMCCE predicts 0° 51’ 37.8” on 12 August at 06:39:10 UT.

    Lars, using Frank's almanac,

          you got 0° 51’ 38.0” on 12 August at 06:39.06 UT.

    My “Astron” gives

          0° 51’ 37.7” on 12 August at 06:39:13 UT.

    So, all ducks are in a neat row.

    However, when I asked Microsoft’s Copilot AI, and then pressed for a more accurate answer, it differed from the above by 38” and was 61 minutes later, allegedly using JPL. I quote …

    Precise Geocentric Separation: Venus–Jupiter Conjunction, 12 August 2025

    For your arcsecond-level comparison, here's the refined data:

    🪐 Closest Approach Details

    • Date: 12 August 2025
    • Time (UT): 07:40 UTC
    • Minimum Geocentric Separation: 51 arcminutes 0 arcseconds Equivalent to 3060 arcseconds
    • Right Ascension (both): 06h 59m 30s
    • Declination:
      • Venus: +21°48′00″
      • Jupiter: +22°39′00″
    • Constellation: Gemini
    • Angular distance from Sun: ~35°
    • Source ephemeris: DE430 (JPL)”

    Very friendly dialogue, but wrong!

    BR

       
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